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I have frequently done unto others as I would have done unto me, and still ended up in hot water.
The amended version, "Treat others as they would like to be treated", might fix this, as long as you are an imaginative, empathetic person. But I still think falling back on good ole reciprocity is probably better for most people.
I have frequently done unto others as I would have done unto me, and still ended up in hot water.
The amended version, "Treat others as they would like to be treated", might fix this, as long as you are an imaginative, empathetic person. But I still think falling back on good ole reciprocity is probably better for most people.
Yes.
The problem with the not so golden rule is when acted upon the focus is on me me me me. What is good enough for me is good enough for you. If blood transfusion is not good for me, it is not good for you. See how that works?
Instead how about this : you helped me out when I had a flat tire. Next time I see someone in need I will stop and help them to pay you back. That spreads good will and kindness.
Last edited by mensaguy; 07-21-2023 at 07:07 AM..
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I have frequently done unto others as I would have done unto me, and still ended up in hot water.
The amended version, "Treat others as they would like to be treated", might fix this, as long as you are an imaginative, empathetic person. But I still think falling back on good ole reciprocity is probably better for most people.
The idea is that doing unto others as you would have done to you is being aware and considerate of THEIR wants and needs as you would like others to do for you, not projecting the particulars of what you would want unto others.
Yes.
The problem with the not so golden rule is when acted upon the focus is on me me me me.
You are simply the standard by which you measure how to treat other people. If for you, the focus is on you, you are doing it wrong.
One should never do that to another which one regards as injurious to one's own self. This, in brief, is the rule of dharma. Other behavior is due to selfish desires.
— Brihaspati, Mahabharata
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Originally Posted by cb2008
What is good enough for me is good enough for you. If blood transfusion is not good for me, it is not good for you. See how that works?
People force others to have blood transfusions where you live?
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Originally Posted by cb2008
Instead how about this : you helped me out when I had a flat tire. Next time I see someone in need I will stop and help them to pay you back. That spreads good will and kindness.
Ironically, helping others because you want people to help you is the golden rule you are attacking.
The idea is that doing unto others as you would have done to you is being aware and considerate of THEIR wants and needs as you would like others to do for you, not projecting the particulars of what you would want unto others.
Last edited by Mightyqueen801; 07-21-2023 at 03:16 PM..
Reason: My typo
Yes.
The problem with the not so golden rule is when acted upon the focus is on me me me me. What is good enough for me is good enough for you. If blood transfusion is not good for me, it is not good for you. See how that works? Instead how about this : you helped me out when I had a flat tire. Next time I see someone in need I will stop and help them to pay you back. That spreads good will and kindness.
That sounds more like Paying it Forward than the Golden Rule...
The idea is that doing unto others as you would have done to you is being aware and considerate of THEIR wants and needs as you would like others to do for you, not projecting the particulars of what you would want unto others.
I know. Who would have thought that such a simple principle would so confounding to some people? But it certianly explains some people's posting habits.
Last edited by Mightyqueen801; 07-21-2023 at 03:17 PM..
Reason: My typo
The idea is that doing unto others as you would have done to you is being aware and considerate of THEIR wants and needs as you would like others to do for you, not projecting the particulars of what you would want unto others.
It is still all about me me me. Doing unto others is doing without quid pro quo, doing an act of kindness just because. Like those who buy coffee for the person waiting in line behind him. Just because. For nothing more than creating delight.
Our neighbor who has a workshop where he creates magic, created a special hook for one of of my kitchen appliance. I can never do that for him. That is generosity with no expectation.
The Golden Rule is no match.
Last edited by Mightyqueen801; 07-21-2023 at 03:17 PM..
Reason: My typo
I know. Who would have thought that such a simple principle would so confounding to some people? But it certianly explains some people's posting habits.
Indeed. Human beings have an unlimited capacity for deliberate misunderstanding.
I also believe we went around the mulberry bush with this topic almost a year ago exactly.
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Originally Posted by Avondalist
This is the problem with the Golden Rule.
I have frequently done unto others as I would have done unto me, and still ended up in hot water.
The amended version, "Treat others as they would like to be treated", might fix this, as long as you are an imaginative, empathetic person. But I still think falling back on good ole reciprocity is probably better for most people.
If you have half a brain and don’t myopically assume that people have the exact same wants and needs as yourself under every circumstance at every time, the golden rule is fine. I want to respect others, and I want others to respect me. That’s not a ham-fisted form of social bribery as some would have you believe.
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