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Old 02-15-2023, 05:19 PM
 
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At what point do we pray, and stop believing that the answer to our prayers is "just coincidence"?

At what point do we pray, and really, truly believe that we received an answer to our prayers..

...and it's not some 'happenstance' thing that happened?

What SAY you?
Seems to me that so many believe that IF they pray, they're supposed to get an answer
immediately...or, it's 'no deal' in their minds.

AND, it's supposed to be the answer that they want, the WAY they want it.

When did Jesus ever say that?

I get answers to my prayers all the time. Not the way i wanted...not in the time I wanted 'it', whatever 'it' was....

And it's not by some 'coincidence'''; it's often specific.

Don't know why it doesn't happen for other folks...

Like others have also said my prayers are for the welfare of my children and family, to keep them safe, healthy, and happy. They pray too, and they pray the same way, for welfare and safety, help complete their tasks, to succeed. It has never occurred to me to think if it as coincidence or answer to prayers. I think of it as blessing and never take it for granted. What difficulties we have had I have prayed for strength through all of it, to bear whatever the status without complaint, for help to find the right solution, and to keep our hopes bright with confidence that things will turn out alright. For that also i am thankful.



In any case it does not seem to matter to me, answer or coincidence. I only feel humble.



I would like to ask you, if you believe your prayers are answered, how does it make you feel ?
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Old 02-15-2023, 06:12 PM
 
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a.
there are no coincidences.
period. full stop.

b.
i always get a response when i pray.
every time. no exceptions.
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Old 02-15-2023, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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a.
there are no coincidences.
period. full stop.

b.
i always get a response when i pray.
every time. no exceptions.
oh my
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Old 02-15-2023, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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At what point do we pray, and stop believing that the answer to our prayers is "just coincidence"?

At what point do we pray, and really, truly believe that we received an answer to our prayers..
There's no one answer; one that applies to everyone. It's as individual as our DNA, and a personal matter.

I've long since gotten the proof I need/needed. It's between God and I, and is sufficient. I know what I know. Trying to put it into details more specifically wouldn't do it justice anyway.

The key for me was to drop the doubt, and just let these matters play out naturally. Don't push or pull, have expectations, etc. Many times the timeline is much different from the typical human expectation. So, in other words, let the higher power be in charge on that power's terms. I'd call it God, but we don't even have to put IDs on it. Maybe it's more of a universe power or something. Recognizing it is more important than trying to pin it down and detail it in words.
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Old 02-15-2023, 07:11 PM
 
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There's no one answer; one that applies to everyone. It's as individual as our DNA, and a personal matter.

I've long since gotten the proof I need/needed. It's between God and I, and is sufficient. I know what I know. Trying to put it into details more specifically wouldn't do it justice anyway.

The key for me was to drop the doubt, and just let these matters play out naturally. Don't push or pull, have expectations, etc. Many times the timeline is much different from the typical human expectation. So, in other words, let the higher power be in charge on that power's terms. I'd call it God, but we don't even have to put IDs on it. Maybe it's more of a universe power or something. Recognizing it is more important than trying to pin it down and detail it in words.
Nicely worded. I feel similarly.
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Old 02-15-2023, 07:19 PM
 
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There's no one answer; one that applies to everyone. It's as individual as our DNA, and a personal matter.

I've long since gotten the proof I need/needed. It's between God and I, and is sufficient. I know what I know. Trying to put it into details more specifically wouldn't do it justice anyway.

The key for me was to drop the doubt, and just let these matters play out naturally. Don't push or pull, have expectations, etc. Many times the timeline is much different from the typical human expectation. So, in other words, let the higher power be in charge on that power's terms. I'd call it God, but we don't even have to put IDs on it. Maybe it's more of a universe power or something. Recognizing it is more important than trying to pin it down and detail it in words.
excellent.
bingo. yes.
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Old 02-15-2023, 07:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mink57 View Post
At what point do we pray, and stop believing that the answer to our prayers is "just coincidence"?

At what point do we pray, and really, truly believe that we received an answer to our prayers..

...and it's not some 'happenstance' thing that happened?

What SAY you?
Seems to me that so many believe that IF they pray, they're supposed to get an answer
immediately...or, it's 'no deal' in their minds.

AND, it's supposed to be the answer that they want, the WAY they want it.

When did Jesus ever say that?

I get answers to my prayers all the time. Not the way i wanted...not in the time I wanted 'it', whatever 'it' was....

And it's not by some 'coincidence'''; it's often specific.

Don't know why it doesn't happen for other folks...
If you did NOT get "it" the way you wanted "it", nor in the time frame you wanted "it" to happen, then maybe you are just deceiving yourself to believe that talking to yourself (praying) actually "works" even thought it didn't. If prayer actually works as claimed in the bible, you would have gotten what you wanted right away.
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Old 02-15-2023, 07:47 PM
 
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a.
there are no coincidences.
period. full stop.

b.
i always get a response when i pray.
every time. no exceptions.
That's GREAT!!!

Nobody has ever achieved that 100% prayer success rate!!!

So how about praying to ending this damn Covid epidemic, the war in Ukraine, cancer, the climate crisis, wiping out all diseases, world hunger, oh the list is endless...

Or does it only work when you pray to your god for things only YOU want?
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Old 02-15-2023, 07:57 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mink57 View Post
At what point do we pray, and stop believing that the answer to our prayers is "just coincidence"?

At what point do we pray, and really, truly believe that we received an answer to our prayers..

...and it's not some 'happenstance' thing that happened?

What SAY you?
Seems to me that so many believe that IF they pray, they're supposed to get an answer
immediately...or, it's 'no deal' in their minds.

AND, it's supposed to be the answer that they want, the WAY they want it.

When did Jesus ever say that?

I get answers to my prayers all the time. Not the way i wanted...not in the time I wanted 'it', whatever 'it' was....

And it's not by some 'coincidence'''; it's often specific.

Don't know why it doesn't happen for other folks...

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If you did NOT get "it" the way you wanted "it", nor in the time frame you wanted "it" to happen, then maybe you are just deceiving yourself to believe that talking to yourself (praying) actually "works" even thought it didn't. If prayer actually works as claimed in the bible, you would have gotten what you wanted right away.
Your focus is on the physical and material aspects and NOT the spiritual aspects that exist within our consciousness. God is concerned with our spiritual development and that is where any interventions will be evident as we consciously respond to whatever led us to resort to prayer in the first place. That is the role of the Comforter. It is NOT a magic genie in a lamp or Santa Claus.
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There's no one answer; one that applies to everyone. It's as individual as our DNA and a personal matter.

I've long since gotten the proof I need/needed. It's between God and I, and is sufficient. I know what I know. Trying to put it into details more specifically wouldn't do it justice anyway.

The key for me was to drop the doubt, and just let these matters play out naturally. Don't push or pull, have expectations, etc. Many times the timeline is much different from the typical human expectation. So, in other words, let the higher power be in charge on that power's terms. I'd call it God, but we don't even have to put IDs on it. Maybe it's more of a universe power or something. Recognizing it is more important than trying to pin it down and detail it in words.
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excellent.
bingo. yes.
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Old 02-15-2023, 07:59 PM
 
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That's GREAT!!! Nobody has ever achieved that 100% prayer success rate!!! So how about praying to ending this damn Covid epidemic, the war in Ukraine, cancer, the climate crisis, wiping out all diseases, world hunger, oh the list is endless...Or does it only work when you pray to your god for things only YOU want?
because that's not what prayer is for
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