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There you go creating a world where your opinions are fact. I stated I didn't believe in free will not that there wasn't any. You stated that there was such a thing as free will factually not that you just believed in it. See the difference? That's the cage you are in all the while claiming the bars are on my side.
You are going deep, L8. I like that. Imagine us, two kids going snorkeling and suddenly realizing that we have gone below snorkel depth and breathing like fish. Let's go deeper where light can't reach. Junk your reasoning. Go spiritual.
You are going deep, L8. I like that. Imagine us, two kids going snorkeling and suddenly realizing that we have gone below snorkel depth and breathing like fish. Let's go deeper where light can't reach. Junk your reasoning. Go spiritual.
I think I'm going to go sun myself on the beach. Let me know how it goes.
Well, let's take a step back and look at what's going on here.
1. L8 said she doesn't believe in free will.
2. I rebutted and said: "There is free will within a cage."
3. She pointed out two things:
A. She doesn't believe in free will, not that there is no free will; and
B. She is not in the cage of my opinion which is a factual world of my own making.
Then, you come in and tell her what is what, and got her defensive quills up like a porcupine all agitated and annoyed.
And that was the end of the conversation as she head to the beach for a bath in the sun.
I am playing therapist here to analyze why she is shunned by her mother for celebrating Christmas. Apparently, L8 is averse to elitism which is something that really pisses her off. There is some Freudian oedipus complex in play here. L8 is unhappy with her Jehovah Witness mother who has shunned her. And Mensaguy is protecting L8 against all enemies both foreign and domestic.
Who wants to take a first jab at this before I present my diagnosis?
Well, let's take a step back and look at what's going on here.
1. L8 said she doesn't believe in free will.
2. I rebutted and said: "There is free will within a cage."
3. She pointed out two things:
A. She doesn't believe in free will, not that there is no free will; and
B. She is not in the cage of my opinion which is a factual world of my own making.
Then, you come in and tell her what is what, and got her defensive quills up like a porcupine all agitated and annoyed.
And that was the end of the conversation as she head to the beach for a bath in the sun.
I am playing therapist here to analyze why she is shunned by her mother for celebrating Christmas. Apparently, L8 is averse to elitism which is something that really pisses her off. There is some Freudian oedipus complex in play here. L8 is unhappy with her Jehovah Witness mother who has shunned her. And Mensaguy is protecting L8 against all enemies both foreign and domestic.
Who wants to take a first jab at this before I present my diagnosis?
Well, let's take a step back and look at what's going on here.
1. L8 said she doesn't believe in free will.
2. I rebutted and said: "There is free will within a cage."
3. She pointed out two things:
A. She doesn't believe in free will, not that there is no free will; and
B. She is not in the cage of my opinion which is a factual world of my own making.
Then, you come in and tell her what is what, and got her defensive quills up like a porcupine all agitated and annoyed.
And that was the end of the conversation as she head to the beach for a bath in the sun.
I am playing therapist here to analyze why she is shunned by her mother for celebrating Christmas. Apparently, L8 is averse to elitism which is something that really pisses her off. There is some Freudian oedipus complex in play here. L8 is unhappy with her Jehovah Witness mother who has shunned her. And Mensaguy is protecting L8 against all enemies both foreign and domestic.
Who wants to take a first jab at this before I present my diagnosis?
The JWs believe that Christmas is false worship. My mother has no idea I am an atheist. I never told her. In fact, when she shunned me I straight told her God said I was to refuse anyone who claimed He meant me harm. An active JW could be disfellowshipped and shunned for it. I do think it was just an excuse though as the year was 2014 and I had already been out of the religion for 27 years without incident. 2014 is exactly 100 years after their failed prediction and was still pivotal to their end-time calculations. I think the leadership needed fresh drama to distract these people as well as keep them away from anyone who knew enough to ask the hard questions. Many exJWs were also shunned that year after years and years out.
I have a stack of envelopes, Metropolitan Ministries, Habitat for Humanity, Feeding Tampa Bay etc waiting until the 30th of the month for checks to be inserted and mailed out (Yes I am old school, I use checks and postage stamps)
Next month, repeat (on the 28th) Next month... repeat ....on the 30th
Point is, I don't give a Sigmodon hirsutus distal alimentary canal opening what someone believes. I do not care what someone professes to believe. I do not care where a person worships, what scripture they use, what they believe about deities
created the world, or exists even. Nor do I care what religion someone professes or none. None of that matters to me.
I care about people's behavior. I see how religious beliefs make people act. Often, more than not, it is not good. I have found that the majority of Christians, when I have gotten to know them, are NOT good people. Not all, but most.
What I do care about is whether or not a child has food on the table ... or a meal at school ... Or a safe school.... Or health care. Or clothes. I care about whether or not a person has a safe place to sleep. I care about whether or not someone's needs in this life, the only one we have, by the way, is empowered to be successful. So every month, the checks are written, sent in, to help provide food, clothing and shelter for my fellow man, as much as I am able to do.
SO peace on earth, charity, love? Well, Mankind Is my business. Charity, Mercy, Forbearance, benevolence are ALL my business. The beliefs I hold about any deity, or those others hold, are but a drop in the bucket in the vast Ocean of My Business.
SO when you need a meal, because the tanking economy has broken you, and your children are starving, and you don't know where to turn, and religions are only interested in helping you if you help them in return, then turn to us Atheists, who see you as brothers and sisters of the human race and understand that human problems will be served only by human efforts. No god needed.
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