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The point is, Christians go about singing carols and thinking the same kind of lovey-dovey thoughts in church when in reality they criticize and dont like Muslims, they dont like Jehovahs Witnesses, etc
But for all religions, not just Christian-bashing, there would be a lot less divisive attitudes and wars in the world if religions actually practiced what they preach. That was my point, maybe I didn't explain very well.
After all, there are some fairly fundamental, orthodox-thinking military men and politicians making decisions when we should go to war or not. If they were more lovey-dovey, and practiced their religious fundamentals then maybe there would be fewer wars, conflicts and more spending the money on people.
Oddly enough I am an atheist shunned by my Jehovah's Witness mother for celebrating Christmas.
Elitism is at the heart of dehumanizing behavior IMO.
The point is, Christians go about singing carols and thinking the same kind of lovey-dovey thoughts in church when in reality they criticize and dont like Muslims, they dont like Jehovahs Witnesses, etc
But for all religions, not just Christian-bashing, there would be a lot less divisive attitudes and wars in the world if religions actually practiced what they preach. That was my point, maybe I didn't explain very well.
After all, there are some fairly fundamental, orthodox-thinking military men and politicians making decisions when we should go to war or not. If they were more lovey-dovey, and practiced their religious fundamentals then maybe there would be fewer wars, conflicts and more spending the money on people.
I disagree with the idea that Christians don't like Muslims or Jehovah Witnesses. You can disagree with other person's theology, but it's doesn't mean you hate them.
However, I agree with the war thing. Since Bush, the worse of humanity is making our foreign policy decisions. War is no longer to protect ourselves, but war for the sake of the industrial military complex.
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Originally Posted by L8Gr8Apost8
Oddly enough I am an atheist shunned by my Jehovah's Witness mother for celebrating Christmas.
Elitism is at the heart of dehumanizing behavior IMO.
Well, that gave me something to think about over my morning coffee. It's really something awful.
I disagree with the idea that Christians don't like Muslims or Jehovah Witnesses. You can disagree with other person's theology, but it's doesn't mean you hate them.
Eternal damnation due to having the "wrong" theology is a pretty good substitute for "hate", though.
...The other thread about Desiderata is a really good example of division generated by religion. There are people on there who criticise the wording when the general message is to be kind and respectful to everyone - regardless of belief.
No, that's a good example of division or difference between all people. You could take a group of non-religious folks, and have them comment on it. There'd likely be people who appreciate it, those who hate it, and everything in between.
Religion is certainly the root of many evils, but so are general traits among all people. And of course, there's wide room for differences and opinions that don't fall along the lines of unhealthy or "evil" ways; just dissonant and annoying to unity and common ground.
Eternal damnation due to having the "wrong" theology is a pretty good substitute for "hate", though.
There are countless reasons to dislike a group of people or a single person. Religion is only one of those reasons. Other reasons include politics, environmentalism, cultural and economic differences, etc. Some people hate bad drivers or people who don't use their turn signals. It's big world out there with plenty of haters.
Now, what you think doesn't makes no difference. You can destroy artifacts like Muslims/ISIS destroyed iconic archaeological monuments in Syria, but that's it. You can not give/take away eternal damnation.
Oddly enough I am an atheist shunned by my Jehovah's Witness mother for celebrating Christmas.
Elitism is at the heart of dehumanizing behavior IMO.
How does an atheist celebrate Christmas? Sounds like a lion going vegan.
As for the shunning, it could be you in the wrong. How old are you? Are you still nursing and clinging to her bosom? Kids give that up long before they can read and write. You write better than me.
Shunned by your mother, you said. What' wrong with you? She probably used that as an excuse to get you off her chest.
How does an atheist celebrate Christmas? Sounds like a lion going vegan.
As for the shunning, it could be you in the wrong. How old are you? Are you still nursing and clinging to her bosom? Kids give that up long before they can read and write. You write better than me.
Shunned by your mother, you said. What' wrong with you?
I celebrate christmas in many of the same ways that a christian does. I decorate the house. I buy gifts for a few friends. Go out to dinner with friends in the holiday spirit. Enjoy a greater sense of goodwill than we often have in this society. There are even years (although not lately) that I may go to a church service. There are many, many Christmas traditions that don't require a person to believe in the 'son of god', the crucifixion, or the resurrection.
I celebrate christmas in many of the same ways that a christian does. I decorate the house. I buy gifts for a few friends. Go out to dinner with friends in the holiday spirit. Enjoy a greater sense of goodwill than we often have in this society. There are even years (although not lately) that I may go to a church service. There are many, many Christmas traditions that don't require a person to believe in the 'son of god', the crucifixion, or the resurrection.
You need to talk to EscAlaMike about being a Christian.
You celebrate Christmas like a trucker in a gentlemen's club at a pit stop on a cross country run too far from home on Christmas Eve. Holiday spirit, you say. You guys just want to thrash and diminish a religion you most hate. You have no idea what it means to celebrate the body and blood, God to God, worship in Jesus Christ.
I celebrate christmas in many of the same ways that a christian does. I decorate the house. I buy gifts for a few friends. Go out to dinner with friends in the holiday spirit. Enjoy a greater sense of goodwill than we often have in this society. There are even years (although not lately) that I may go to a church service. There are many, many Christmas traditions that don't require a person to believe in the 'son of god', the crucifixion, or the resurrection.
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Originally Posted by myuen2
You need to talk to EscAlaMike about being a Christian.
You celebrate Christmas like a trucker in a gentlemen's club at a pit stop on a cross country run too far from home on Christmas Eve. Holiday spirit, you say. You guys just want to thrash and diminish a religion you most hate. You have no idea what it means to celebrate the body and blood, God to God, worship in Jesus Christ.
How does an atheist celebrate Christmas? Sounds like a lion going vegan.
As for the shunning, it could be you in the wrong. How old are you? Are you still nursing and clinging to her bosom? Kids give that up long before they can read and write. You write better than me.
Shunned by your mother, you said. What' wrong with you? She probably used that as an excuse to get you off her chest.
Really unnecessary and borderline cruel.
For the record, when I was young, my Jewish best friend came over for Christmas Eve and we exchanged presents and ate Christmas cookies.
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Eternal damnation due to having the "wrong" theology is a pretty good substitute for "hate", though.
I have a great friend who is a member of the Church of Christ. I'm sure that she worries my Catholic soul heading eternal damnation. We're still friends even with my eternal damnation. I'm sure many CD Protestants believe I'm heading to Hell. It doesn't matter.
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