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Old 03-31-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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Dogma. Hmmmmm.

I deviate from mainstream Buddhist thinking in several places, so I wouldn't call it dogma. For example, I remain unconvinced of nibanna and a bit shaky on reincarnation, and certainly don't agree with the idea that there have been multiple Buddhas in the distant past. So I wouldn't say I'm dogmatic.
Right...because it actually goes beyond dogma...and could easily be the foundation for a list of "Commandments".
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Old 03-31-2022, 11:11 AM
 
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Right...because it actually goes beyond dogma...and could easily be the foundation for a list of "Commandments".
Except Theravada Buddhism doesn't believe in commandments.
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Old 03-31-2022, 11:20 AM
 
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Except Theravada Buddhism doesn't believe in commandments.
I never said it did.
I said your "Creed" read as the foundation for Commandments. And, it does.
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Old 03-31-2022, 11:23 AM
 
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I never said it did.
I said your "Creed" read as the foundation for Commandments. And, it does.
You want to argue, nothing more.
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:19 PM
 
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You make some good points here. This matter of a creed is something that I thought quite a bit about even while I was still a catholic. At each mass we would say the creed, out loud. The problem was that it got to be like anything else that is done by rote memory (or simply reading it). People said it without really thinking about it, not unlike the way at masses people rise or kneel depending on when the bells ring. It's not unlike when children say the Pledge Of Allegiance every morning 2,340 times; no thinking, just rote repetition, thus virtually meaningless. I got to the point in the catholic church that I started leaving certain words or phrases out, or silently changed them in my mind as everyone else said the creed out loud. Of course, once I got to Buddhism, where we are fully allowed to think, it really did become up to me to develop my own creed. But that's the difference between a commandments-based religion and a philosophical-based religion.
it is a fact that you do not know what other people are thinking about when they are reading or reciting anything.
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:29 PM
 
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it is a fact that you do not know what other people are thinking about when they are reading or reciting anything.
so what?
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:30 PM
 
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I love this quote by Henri Frederic Amiel that I try to live by:

“Life is short. We don't have much time to gladden the hearts of those who walk this way with us. So, be swift to love and make haste to be kind.”

I think that position would work for most everybody.
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Old 03-31-2022, 12:59 PM
 
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I love this quote by Henri Frederic Amiel that I try to live by:

“Life is short. We don't have much time to gladden the hearts of those who walk this way with us. So, be swift to love and make haste to be kind.”

I think that position would work for most everybody.
Speaking of establishing "creeds".....

I like it.

May have a hard time convincing the intellectual rednecks though.
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Old 03-31-2022, 01:12 PM
 
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Nicene, Apostle's, Athanasian. In Latin
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Old 03-31-2022, 02:01 PM
 
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You want to argue, nothing more.
No...I'm serious.
You even have a version of "Thou Shalt Not Steal" as a precept in there.
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