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Checks links. Ahhh... no problem, they are from 7 years ago. Perfect!
Yes...which is great...because we can now see how accurate they were!
Bottom Line: The world, overall, is embracing Religion and rejecting Atheism. Outlier areas of the world and those with biased headtrips about it, notwithstanding.
Religion - so highly regulated and affected by people - can increase and decrease as people and cultures do, but spirituality (and the universe and cosmos) is eternal and continuous.
Even religion, with its connections to spirituality, has been picking up in recent years, after so much junk going around. People are going beyond their usual rat-race pace and robotic ways to sense, search, and explore beyond the daily and the mundane. That too bothers some, who can't stand to see others widen their horizons.
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The USA is a outlier consisting of only 5% of the world population.
Religion is growing globally...Atheism is what's declining.
I know this bothers some...which is why they disingenuously note a place that goes against the overall trend.
There is no "slow death of Religion"...it's thriving.
Right. And though it may decline sometimes, it will never die out completely. God's church in places like China and Eritrea is indeed thriving and many are called into his Kingdom in these parts of the world where wealth is less common.
The United States thinks it has it all figured out, but it will soon know better when it's government comes crashing down on itself in the near future. The Lord has blessed this country with wealth and comfort beyond anyone-who's-lived-200-years-ago's wildest dreams. Ultimately, what we've done with these gifts is to search out ways to disprove God and relegate his revealed word to fantasy. Thankfully the true and living God has far greater patience than I do.
I feel that one day, probably in not too long a time, God will withdraw his blessings and in some century's time this great civilization will be on the level of what world-powers like Assyria, Babylon and Egypt are--some non-existent and some a has-been with very little power at the present. No kingdom lasts forever except for the Lord's and there are so many in this country who take what they have for granted as though it is their right as an sentient-being to have such a life-style. The Lord will instead provide his blessings upon countries such as China and they will instead become a great world power one day.
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This is not true.
As far as education and knowledge being an antidote and inoculant to God Belief and Religion...The Way of The World has long shown that to be untrue.
Throughout history...the greatest minds were Theist.
I have noted before---Belief is the "litmus-test" for the "best of the best" scientists. The VERY top echelon are/were Theist (with some exceptions, of course): Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Bacon, Galileo, Descartes, Boyle, Faraday, Mendel, Kelvin, Planck, Brahe, Gilbert, Pasteur, Einstein, Lamatrie, Collins, etc, etc
And, lately...the areas of the world with the very best education, like Hong Kong, is where Religion was growing the fastest (when left alone by the Government)...which flies in the face of the rude and insulting implication that people believe in God and/or are Religious because of ignorance.
This has been debated before, many times...check this out: https://www.city-data.com/forum/42536616-post26.html
Yeah, it really does unsettle atheists when they encounter incredibly brilliant people who believe in the Biblical God. In my church the majority of the members are healthcare workers (a handful of doctors and many more nurses) and lots and lots of engineers; and one guy who worked for NASA. Very few have menial labor jobs (a majority of the mothers--of younger children--are stay-at-home moms because their husband's income provides enough to allow them to do this).
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Right. And though it may decline sometimes, it will never die out completely. God's church in places like China and Eritrea is indeed thriving and many are called into his Kingdom in these parts of the world where wealth is less common.
The United States thinks it has it all figured out, but it will soon know better when it's government comes crashing down on itself in the near future. The Lord has blessed this country with wealth and comfort beyond anyone-who's-lived-200-years-ago's wildest dreams. Ultimately, what we've done with these gifts is to search out ways to disprove God and relegate his revealed word to fantasy. Thankfully the true and living God has far greater patience than I do.
I feel that one day, probably in not too long a time, God will withdraw his blessings and in some century's time this great civilization will be on the level of what world-powers like Assyria, Babylon and Egypt are--some non-existent and some a has-been with very little power at the present. No kingdom lasts forever except for the Lord's and there are so many in this country who take what they have for granted as though it is their right as an sentient-being to have such a life-style. The Lord will instead provide his blessings upon countries such as China and they will instead become a great world power one day.
Yeah, it really does unsettle atheists when they encounter incredibly brilliant people who believe in the Biblical God. In my church the majority of the members are healthcare workers (a handful of doctors and many more nurses) and lots and lots of engineers; and one guy who worked for NASA. Very few have menial labor jobs (a majority of the mothers--of younger children--are stay-at-home moms because their husband's income provides enough to allow them to do this).
Hey Basil! Great to see ya!
Even more great to get a response of yours.
For sure...Religion has been in this world for scores of centuries...and it will always be, as long as humans exist.
It is true, studies have shown religious belief increases where education is non-existent or bad, and where living conditions are bad. Apparently religion loves misery.
Once you get hip to that, you will have a better understanding of how the world works.
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Originally Posted by GldnRule
As far as education and knowledge being an antidote and inoculant to God Belief and Religion...The Way of The World has long shown that to be untrue.
Throughout history...the greatest minds were Theist.
I have noted before---Belief is the "litmus-test" for the "best of the best" scientists. The VERY top echelon are/were Theist (with some exceptions, of course): Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Bacon, Galileo, Descartes, Boyle, Faraday, Mendel, Kelvin, Planck, Brahe, Gilbert, Pasteur, Einstein, Lamatrie, Collins, etc, etc
And, lately...the areas of the world with the very best education, like Hong Kong, is where Religion was growing the fastest (when left alone by the Government)...which flies in the face of the rude and insulting implication that people believe in God and/or are Religious because of ignorance.
This has been debated before, many times...check this out: https://www.city-data.com/forum/42536616-post26.html
As we have explained before, as most people are religious, then many of the most intelligent people will be religious, as will the most stupid. Your correlation is as relevant as the fact that all of these people are also men.
Yeah, it really does unsettle atheists when they encounter incredibly brilliant people who believe in the Biblical God.
No, we do not care. It is the religious who keep making this argument as if it is important. After all, we are still waiting for just one of these intelligent people to provide credible evidence for their version of their god.
Nowhere have I seen an atheist complain about intelligent people being religious.
From your reference to the biblical god, you appear to have a problem with the fact that many brilliant minds believe in different gods, or none at all.
Right. And though it may decline sometimes, it will never die out completely. God's church in places like China and Eritrea is indeed thriving and many are called into his Kingdom in these parts of the world where wealth is less common.
The United States thinks it has it all figured out, but it will soon know better when it's government comes crashing down on itself in the near future. The Lord has blessed this country with wealth and comfort beyond anyone-who's-lived-200-years-ago's wildest dreams. Ultimately, what we've done with these gifts is to search out ways to disprove God and relegate his revealed word to fantasy. Thankfully the true and living God has far greater patience than I do.
I feel that one day, probably in not too long a time, God will withdraw his blessings and in some century's time this great civilization will be on the level of what world-powers like Assyria, Babylon and Egypt are--some non-existent and some a has-been with very little power at the present. No kingdom lasts forever except for the Lord's and there are so many in this country who take what they have for granted as though it is their right as an sentient-being to have such a life-style. The Lord will instead provide his blessings upon countries such as China and they will instead become a great world power one day.
Yeah, it really does unsettle atheists when they encounter incredibly brilliant people who believe in the Biblical God. In my church the majority of the members are healthcare workers (a handful of doctors and many more nurses) and lots and lots of engineers; and one guy who worked for NASA. Very few have menial labor jobs (a majority of the mothers--of younger children--are stay-at-home moms because their husband's income provides enough to allow them to do this).
Should spirituality/religion and power go hand-in-hand? Should influential power arise where God is worshipped? The Spaniards attempted it in Texas with their missions, but they couldn't do it without a military arm. What exactly does the world learn from this religious/military influence? Back then it was pretty clear, to turn the savage Indian into something civil. Today, establishing better religious subjects is a concept so poorly defined that there are thousands of Christian denominations that attempt to do this, yet, the line is drawn when God is questioned by an atheist?
Maybe the explanation is simpler. The American today is like the Americans back then who wouldn't call themselves British subjects: restless and busy. The ones who created a government by the people rather than be ruled by kings. People last. Kingdoms don't. If things are not questioned, then I think we lose the nature of the first Americans.
No, we do not care. It is the religious who keep making this argument as if it is important. After all, we are still waiting for just one of these intelligent people to provide credible evidence for their version of their god.
Nowhere have I seen an atheist complain about intelligent people being religious.
From your reference to the biblical god, you appear to have a problem with the fact that many brilliant minds believe in different gods, or none at all.
You care....you care A LOT!
That you are here everyday...bashing, interrogating, and mocking Theist Strangers about their Theological Beliefs & insulting/criticizing them for holding those Beliefs...is the prima facie evidence of how much you care.
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