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Old 01-21-2022, 02:32 PM
 
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You also claimed that Muslim majority nations killed those that did not convert and upon me showing you that many of those nations in fact have a higher percentage of non Muslims than your country has non Christian you again focused on Iran as if it represents the entire religion.

Do you admit that Iran is not the only Muslim led country?
It's common knowledge that many nations do give a death penalty for proselytizing, or converting away from Islam. If you wish to play this game, so be it. I'm not aware of any "Christian nations" that kill people for evangelism of any other religion, or for converting to another religion.
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Old 01-21-2022, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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It's common knowledge that many nations do give a death penalty for proselytizing, or converting away from Islam. If you wish to play this game, so be it. I'm not aware of any "Christian nations" that kill people for evangelism of any other religion, or for converting to another religion.
Do you approve of the death penalty at all?
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Old 01-21-2022, 04:37 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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There are seven theocratic nations on earth. I don't know how you are going to use this information in a thread about Do you think Christians are the most sensitive group?. Six of the seven are Islamic theocracies. Other than Vatican City, there are no Christian theocracies, so of course there is nowhere where Christian penalties are imposed as a matter of law.

These nations are:
  • Vatican City
  • Yemen
  • Saudi Arabia
  • Sudan
  • Iran
  • Mauritania
  • Afghanistan
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Old 01-21-2022, 08:34 PM
 
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Out of all of them to minorities and people that are different they react the most negative? It seems they tend to be 'Holier then thou' a lot and try to use their religion as an excuse to be an ass.



No. Jews are the most sensitive.
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Old 01-21-2022, 09:26 PM
 
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There are seven theocratic nations on earth. I don't know how you are going to use this information in a thread about Do you think Christians are the most sensitive group?. Six of the seven are Islamic theocracies. Other than Vatican City, there are no Christian theocracies, so of course there is nowhere where Christian penalties are imposed as a matter of law.

These nations are:
  • Vatican City
  • Yemen
  • Saudi Arabia
  • Sudan
  • Iran
  • Mauritania
  • Afghanistan
The seriousness of consequences for offending the religion or its rules has to be considered when evaluating sensitivity, IMO.
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Old 01-22-2022, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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No. Jews are the most sensitive.
Please give examples. BTW, if you as a people were hounded, branded, vilified, shoved into ghettos, and exterminated by enormous numbers for thousands of years, you might be a little "sensitive" as well.
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Old 01-22-2022, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Dessert
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I think some christians are especially self-centered about their religion, prone to take offense at everything.

I get annoyed at the ones who get mad when someone says "Happy Holidays" because christmas is "the reason for the season". They don't acknowledge the dozens of holidays others celebrate at the end of the year. They seem to feel that if something doesn't agree with their beliefs, it must be taking something away from them.

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Old 01-22-2022, 08:13 AM
 
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Please give examples. BTW, if you as a people were hounded, branded, vilified, shoved into ghettos, and exterminated by enormous numbers for thousands of years, you might be a little "sensitive" as well.



See? I don't even need to give any examples. Thank you.
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Old 01-22-2022, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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See? I don't even need to give any examples. Thank you.
So, I provided instances where Jews have been harassed, tortured, and killed for centuries because of their faith and you find that amusing? I guess some people have a warped sense of humor.
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Old 01-23-2022, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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I'm just saying that in a country of 330 million people, yes, there are some bad people. And some bad people will do bad things. And we all condemn that when it happens.

But our nation, founded by Christians and historically identifying as Christian for a couple of centuries, allows for freedom to worship as one pleases. I'm sorry if my post was a bit unclear. What I meant was that one is allowed to be of a different religion than the predominant Christianity. That sort of freedom is not allowed in other countries.
I'd argue that our country was founded by deists and freethinkers for the most part. Jefferson and Franklin were hardly Christians, and certainly not the kind you'd approve of, for example. Many were slave owners.

As to how free one is to be other than Christian in this country, and what that freedom means in practice ... IDK, sure you can set up a 401k non-profit corporation and open a mosque or a synagogue or a witches coven I suppose ... but you quickly run into the NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) problem and will surely spend more on security to protect yourselves from random nut jobs and nighttime vandals and such.

Yes in other countries you can't even incorporate and you'll be punished even for private practice of your minority faith, if it is discovered. But I'd hardly call it a level playing field, even in the US.
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