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Depends on which innocent victims we're discussing. Since I used the example of Noah, we'll stick with that. As I recall, there were two similar but different reasons given - one being that god had decided that mankind had become violent and corrupt, the other that god had declared us evil and wicked.
So, if we accept the accuracy of that scripture (and my memory of it, for that matter) then we're left with the conclusion that god drowned many thousands of infant children simply because he created an imperfect species. Because if an infant child is - by its very nature - corrupt, violent, wicked, and evil, then it can not possibly be the fault of the infant (because an infant is not capable of deciding to become wicked, evil, violent, or corrupt), or even the fault of the parents - because an infant child is incapable of being taught to be evil, corrupt, wicked, or violent. If an infant child is born wicked, then it can only be the fault of the deity who created it.
Depends on which innocent victims we're discussing. Since I used the example of Noah, we'll stick with that. As I recall, there were two similar but different reasons given - one being that god had decided that mankind had become violent and corrupt, the other that god had declared us evil and wicked.
So, if we accept the accuracy of that scripture (and my memory of it, for that matter) then we're left with the conclusion that god drowned many thousands of infant children simply because he created an imperfect species. Because if an infant child is - by its very nature - corrupt, violent, wicked, and evil, then it can not possibly be the fault of the infant (because an infant is not capable of deciding to become wicked, evil, violent, or corrupt), or even the fault of the parents - because an infant child is incapable of being taught to be evil, corrupt, wicked, or violent. If an infant child is born wicked, then it can only be the fault of the deity who created it.
So, yeah - no reason whatsoever.
That's how I read it.
The biblical god Moderator cut: goofed up.
Royally.
We survived despite him.
(Other)God bless us all, everyone.
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Reason: Trying to turn PG-13 into a "G" rating to appease those easily offended.
What is the reason God offered, according to Scripture?
Let's just continue to ignore the telltale signs of the Noah story being just that: a story.
Whenever you run across impossible extremes, you should immediately think to yourself, "Hey, this must be a story of some kind but certainly not an historical event."
Yet when the Bible makes the idiotic claim that EVERYONE on the planet was somehow evil, some folks take that as the absolute truth. What nonsense. It just goes to show the rational people how far others are willing to go in order to believe the Bible to be an historical account of the Bronze Age.
I mean, come on ... really? Every last person was evil? There's no reason to believe such a stupid claim.
What's more, the Bible isn't very specific on just HOW the entire human population was evil. Yeah, they were just evil and that's all we need to know. Of course, being "evil" could mean anything from total anarchy and the complete breakdown of law and morality - or it could simply mean too many people were picking up sticks on the Sabbath. Besides, we're not supposed to use our brains when it comes to religious claims. Nope. You're just supposed to believe it. Blindly. No questions asked.
Because when you start using your brain, when you begin asking questions .... uh oh. Now the Bible, especially the Old Testament hijinx, makes less and less sense.
Depends on which innocent victims we're discussing. Since I used the example of Noah, we'll stick with that. As I recall, there were two similar but different reasons given - one being that god had decided that mankind had become violent and corrupt, the other that god had declared us evil and wicked.
So, if we accept the accuracy of that scripture (and my memory of it, for that matter) then we're left with the conclusion that god drowned many thousands of infant children simply because he created an imperfect species. Because if an infant child is - by its very nature - corrupt, violent, wicked, and evil, then it can not possibly be the fault of the infant (because an infant is not capable of deciding to become wicked, evil, violent, or corrupt), or even the fault of the parents - because an infant child is incapable of being taught to be evil, corrupt, wicked, or violent. If an infant child is born wicked, then it can only be the fault of the deity who created it.
So, yeah - no reason whatsoever.
So you mean to tell me there was no warning to these people before the flood ? There was no warning or something said to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden ? You mean God didn't warn the people of Sodom and Gomorrah by sending Angels to find people who would repent to save the place ? It sounds and is a prodigious amount of disobedience on man's part.
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So you mean to tell me there was no warning to these people ?
A warning is irrelevant.
And uh, I don't recall God handing out warnings to the Aborigines in Australia or the precursors of the Mayans and Aztecs, the Mongols on the Russian steppes, the Inuits living above the Arctic Circle, or any of the tribes living in the Amazon, the jungles of Africa, or the wilds of Papua New Guinea. These so-called "warnings" weren't even handed out in civilized places like China and India.
Nope. God kept everything tightly bound up in that small patch of desert in the Middle East. So, according to your version of history, some poor sod living in Tibet looked up and saw all of this water ... and died not having the SLIGHTEST knowledge or understanding of what was happening.
Uh huh, yep. Because of some morons in the Middle East didn't heed God's warning, everyone must die.
And yet God is supposed to be fair and just. What a crock of manure.
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When a person says he is not a sinner, he is a liar as we are born in to a sinful nature world. If you break one of the commandments it is as if you broke all of them.. This is why we can't save our self we need a Savior, we may think we are good and caring people but our garments are like filthy rags, we need to repent of our sins by having a change of heart and mind.
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When a person says he is not a sinner, he is a liar as we are born in to a sinful nature world. If you break one of the commandments it is as if you broke all of them.. This is why we can't save our self we need a Savior, we may think we are good and caring people but our garments are like filthy rags, we need to repent of our sins by having a change of heart and mind.
Perry, I'm very sorry you think so little of yourself.
I happen to think you're a good man with a mistaken idea of what God might want. I hope your thinking changes before you cash in your chips.
Life is for living - for extracting as much joy and embracing as much knowledge as possible.
Oh yeah, and learning how to deal with pain. But you know about that part.
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