Why has Butler County always been seen as a Republican stronghold considering how urbanised and diverse it is? (Dayton: crime, big house)

[Doughboy1918]

Originally Posted by Karl Lagos

It's "whatsoever".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1BS7XnEZqc

[woxyroxme]

Originally Posted by Doughboy1918

Interesting. Yet even still, one of Ohio's largest liberal arts universities is located in Butler County and whose alumni will overwhelmingly serve as a large democratic base. Yet Butler County still consistantly leans red.

What liberal arts university are you talking about here?

[Doughboy1918]

Originally Posted by woxyroxme

What liberal arts university are you talking about here?

Miami.

[midwest1]

I would assume Miami University. Oxford is only like 25,000 people and many out of state students, tons of Chicagoans, who never bother to switch their IDs to vote in Ohio, so that limits that influence. And the school has long had a reputation as a more conservative university, huge number of business majors, fraternities etc.

Middletown and Hamilton both have smaller Miami branches and their students largely reflect local political leanings.

[woxyroxme]

Originally Posted by Doughboy1918

Miami.

Miami is a state public research university not liberal arts such as Antioch, Kenyon College, Oberlin College, Ohio Wesleyan University, The College of Wooster, and Denison University.

[Doughboy1918]

Originally Posted by midwest1

I would assume Miami University. Oxford is only like 25,000 people and many out of state students, tons of Chicagoans, who never bother to switch their IDs to vote in Ohio, so that limits that influence. And the school has long had a reputation as a more conservative university, huge number of business majors, fraternities etc.

Middletown and Hamilton both have smaller Miami branches and their students largely reflect local political leanings.

Look at this map though and zoom in on the northwest corner of Butler County at Oxford Township, solid blue as you can see.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...esults.svg.png

Also, how would you know that so many of the alumni at Miami are from Chicago?

[midwest1]

40% of Miami students are from out-of-state...12% are from Illinois.

https://www.collegefactual.com/colle...0the%20country.

[kpl1228]

It has been like this forever in Butler County.
When I was a student at Oxford's Miami University thousands of years ago, John Boehner was the congressman and he ran one election unopposed, I believe.
Imagine the Dems not running anyone against him even as a token candidate. Congress is not like coroner or city council or sheriff. Yet that's Butler County. It would have been futile to face him.
Whenever I think of unchecked sprawl, with a county of Republicans endorsing it for jobs and economic reasons, more than any other county in the country I think of Butler County. It is solidly Republican in both numbers and party clout and mindset, despite Middletown/Hamilton/Oxford having some Democratic presence.

[midwest1]

Not sure it is fair to describe Butler County as "unchecked sprawl". Both Hamilton and Middletown are in urban regeneration mode, especially Hamilton, which has seems hundreds of downtown housing units coming online.

Add to that Oxford, the new urbanist developments at Liberty Center and Westchester...Butler County is not just subdivisions.

The county has a conservative heritage that is a mix of German-Americans, Appalachian migrants, blue collar workers which the Democrats have abandoned and a large Christian community, as well as those who moved North from Cincy and south from Dayton....Sometimes to be in a more low-tax, less woke-leftist identity, more business-friendly environment.

Btw. During Covid our county Sheriff Jones stated he was not a mask enforcer and pretty much left it up to individual biz owners to set their own policies. My local gym stayed open during the entire charade. My Chicago friends were amazed at this.

The combination of all of these help to explain Butler County's sane political leanings.

[midwest1]

Westchester

https://www.journal-news.com/news/ne...KYB34ZBU4S364/

Hamilton

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinna...ls-spooky.html

1000 hotel rooms in the works. The largest sports training facility on Earth...and tons of new housing development happening to n Hamilton

Middletown is growing faster than Dayton Cincy and Hamilton, with some 800 apartment units either under construction or in the pipeline. And some 40 downtown businesses have opened in the last 5 years.

It is more than sprawl in the B, of the CBD Metroplex ..