Why has Butler County always been seen as a Republican stronghold considering how urbanised and diverse it is? (Cincinnati: houses, restaurants)

[Jbraybarten653]

Originally Posted by rrampage

This has overlooked some main points. The bottom line is that this county under-reflects the nation's demographics. We also have not mentioned that "thing" called gerrymandering. Let's consider that the reasons for immigrants moving here is likely closer to being closer to employment rather than anything political. Let's not actually believe "white flight" WASN'T involved in these areas either. That would be foolish/delusional and clearly on the denial side of things (once again). I would not exactly say these areas "welcomed" black residents either.

Truth is important.

Exactly.

[rrampage]

Originally Posted by Jbraybarten653

Exactly.

Well, it isn't hard for most of us to figure out what's going on, anyway.

[Doughboy1918]

Originally Posted by rrampage

This has overlooked some main points. The bottom line is that this county under-reflects the nation's demographics. We also have not mentioned that "thing" called gerrymandering. Let's consider that the reasons for immigrants moving here is likely closer to being closer to employment rather than anything political. Let's not actually believe "white flight" WASN'T involved in these areas either. That would be foolish/delusional and clearly on the denial side of things (once again). I would not exactly say these areas "welcomed" black residents either.

Truth is important.

What demographics does Butler County under-represent? It seems perfectly in-line with almost everything. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...o,US/PST045222

[midwest1]

Originally Posted by Doughboy1918

What‘s your source on Butler County not being in the Cincy metro until 1960? Because I always held the assumption it was always part of it looking at old US census population statistics of the area.

https://www.census.gov/library/publi...n-pc-3-1d.html

And my point about the lack of white flight was in reference to the County's core cities of Middletown and Hamilton. They both have black populations but the white populations of the two never declined as much as either Cincy or Dayton.


Dayton and Cincy have similar racial demographics of roughly 50% white and 40% black. Middletown and Hamilton are about 80% white and 10% black.

[midwest1]

And the Hamilton-Middletown MSA was added to Cincinnati's metro only in 1990

from Bing'sChat

"Butler County was formed on March 24, 1803, from portions of Hamilton County1. It was previously known as the Hamilton–Middletown, OH PMSA and was separate from the Cincinnati, OH–KY–IN PMSA until the 1990 Census when the Cincinnati–Hamilton, OH–KY–IN CMSA designation was used to consolidate the two PMSAs2."

[Jbraybarten653]

Originally Posted by rrampage

Well, it isn't hard for most of us to figure out what's going on, anyway.

A few here seem to struggle with it...

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by Doughboy1918

Also having now re-read this, is it really that white? Because it's one of the few counties in Ohio to have a substantially large Hispanic population, something the state of Ohio (despite being considered a bellwether for American culture, trends and politics) I feel has always lacked compared to other states for whatever reason.

Butler county is 82.7% white. However, my experience is that WestChester, Middletown, and Hamilton have quite a few ethnicities. Theres a largish Middle Eastern community in Westchester, a largish hispanic community in Hamilton where the most everything in the neighborhood is in spanish but the street signs. Also, a lot of Indian folks live in Butler county as well. So maybe white America is dispersed throughout the countryside somewhat more so than the urban areas.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/butlercountyohio

[Doughboy1918]

Originally Posted by Jbraybarten653

A few here seem to struggle with it...

I refuted what was said if you read my other post.

[midwest1]

Originally Posted by TomJones123

Butler county is 82.7% white. However, my experience is that WestChester, Middletown, and Hamilton have quite a few ethnicities. Theres a largish Middle Eastern community in Westchester, a largish hispanic community in Hamilton where the most everything in the neighborhood is in spanish but the street signs. Also, a lot of Indian folks live in Butler county as well. So maybe white America is dispersed throughout the countryside somewhat more so than the urban areas.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/butlercountyohio

There is quite a large Hispanic population in Hamilton and Fairfield, particularly Dominican. Middletown as well has a small Dominican population. Fairfield especially seems to be witnessing a rapid growth in Mexican/Central American migrants, many from what I hear are undocumented.

And yes, the only Sikh Temple in the CBD is in the area. Warren County has a very large and growing Asian community as well

Middletown at one time had sizable Greek/Italian/and Jewish Communities that have largely assimilated.

One other major factor that might explain Butler County's more conservative tilt is the huge role Appalachian migration played in the growth of the Hamilton and Middletown areas ..ie Hamiltucky and Middletucky, home of JD Vance/HillBillyElegy.

Unlike Cincinnati's KY population in Covington and Newport, which mirror the German heritage from across the river, Middletown and Hamilton attracted mostly hill folk from rural eastern Kentucky. My Mom's family was part of that migration. Largely Baptist, these folks were, and still are deeply suspicious of big city politicians. This legacy remains to a certain extent.

[midwest1]

Originally Posted by rrampage

This has overlooked some main points. The bottom line is that this county under-reflects the nation's demographics. We also have not mentioned that "thing" called gerrymandering. Let's consider that the reasons for immigrants moving here is likely closer to being closer to employment rather than anything political. Let's not actually believe "white flight" WASN'T involved in these areas either. That would be foolish/delusional and clearly on the denial side of things (once again). I would not exactly say these areas "welcomed" black residents either.

Truth is important.

Middletown and Hamilton have been "welcoming" their fellow Americans since the early 1800's, both, but particularly Middletown and its vital role as a central stop on the Underground Railroad...linking to the great Lakes via the Miami and Erie Canal...the end of which meant freedom in Canada.

I have met hundreds of black Middletonians. The race relations here are about as good as it gets, especially compared to Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, or Cleveland. Middletown is a melting pot.