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Old 01-16-2024, 09:36 AM
 
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You think I havent been affected by violent crime? I've been held up at gunpoint before and had someone pull out a razor on me before too. Both situations I escaped without injury.
I was simply addressing your claim that you haven’t felt it necessary to own a gun. Good for you; you’re very lucky you didn’t need one in those situations. Others feel differently.
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Old 01-16-2024, 09:39 AM
 
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Gun = insurance?
absolutely.. it is part of an over all plan for one’s safety and security.

something we never thought about until i had the incident in ally pond park when my wife never realized she didn’t dial 9-11 in the excitement
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Old 01-16-2024, 09:39 AM
 
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Gun = insurance?
If someone is either stronger or armed, and is intent upon hurting you, what will you do to defend yourself, or those whom you have an obligation to defend?
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Old 01-16-2024, 09:42 AM
 
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If someone is either stronger or armed, and is intent upon hurting you, what will you do to defend yourself, or those whom you have an obligation to defend?
If they got the drop on you, all of that is irrelevant
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Old 01-16-2024, 09:45 AM
 
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If they got the drop on you, all of that is irrelevant
I’ve never once disputed that point.

A simple question - do you believe that people ever use firearms to defend themselves, and if you do believe that, do you believe it is only in small token numbers of instances, or in large numbers of instances (10’s of thousands)?
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Old 01-16-2024, 09:59 AM
 
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If they got the drop on you, all of that is irrelevant
if brakes on a car work , why do we need seat belts ? if seat belts work , why do we need air bags ? if air bags work why do we need crumple zones in cars ?

because they all work in different situations and are part of a package of things that protect us .

and even then we can be injured or die
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:42 AM
 
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if brakes on a car work , why do we need seat belts ? if seat belts work , why do we need air bags ? if air bags work why do we need crumple zones in cars ?

because they all work in different situations and are part of a package of things that protect us .

and even then we can be injured or die
Despite all that I dont think guns are necessary for humans to exist
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:43 AM
 
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I’ve never once disputed that point.

A simple question - do you believe that people ever use firearms to defend themselves, and if you do believe that, do you believe it is only in small token numbers of instances, or in large numbers of instances (10’s of thousands)?
I cant answer that because I don't have the statistics
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:45 AM
 
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I cant answer that because I don't have the statistics
So, you have zero knowledge of whether or not people use guns to defend themselves? Really?
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Old 01-16-2024, 10:51 AM
 
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Despite all that I dont think guns are necessary for humans to exist
i think the 6 million who got herded into rail road cars and were defensless would disagree

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