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The higher the Chinese/Asian percentage in a school district, the better it is in NYC and LI. This isn't even debatable. It's like it used to be with (secular) Jews before most of their kids ran away from NY.
Adding higher intelligence kids to schools makes schools better. Just like adding engaged parents (who value education) makes schools better. This isn't complicated and we have plenty of proof of this all across NYC and LI.
As outsiders with little to no real NYC schooling experience, they don't understand why Townsend Harris, Brooklyn Tech, STuy, Bronx Science, or even Midwood's Med Science are mainly Asian. These are the same kids that grew up with parents working factories, restaurant jobs and saving their ass off.
But now, these kids are adults and with great jobs and moving to LI. Secondary to this, the Chinese from China are making $$$ and paying through the nose to live in a great school district in LI, which should translate into higher scores.
Check out NYS 3-8 grade test results for Math and ELA. Gives you an idea of how well these schools performed or have improved. East Williston is up there and ranked top 5 in both for last 6 yrs, they have houses in the Mineola section that would fit your criteria.
Because those that can afford $800K+ homes tend to value education? I’m not claiming LI schools are bad. I’m claiming they might be getting even better, as in more academically rigorous.
Increased tax revenue from property taxes and local sales taxes? What percentage has the average property tax increased over the past 4 years? 20%?
That tax on the house is being paid whether someone has lived there 20 years or just moved from NYC or anywhere else. You’re acting like people are coming from NYC and voluntarily paying 20% more in RE taxes.
Asians make schools better when they are a significant part of a schools population. My kids HS here in NC is about 50% Asian and despite the school boards best effort to take it down a notch in the name of equity the only way that’s gonna happen is if you convince all the Asians to move. These kids are locked and loaded from elementary school. If you want your kids in that “rising tide lifts all boats “ atmosphere then you need to look for Asian dominant schools and find a the best house you can in that district. That simple.
That tax on the house is being paid whether someone has lived there 20 years or just moved from NYC or anywhere else. You’re acting like people are coming from NYC and voluntarily paying 20% more in RE taxes.
Cost of living in NYC isn't exactly cheap, for most this isn't a strong consideration when the average cost of a studio apartment in the city is now over $3k a month PLUS city income tax.
This is even less of a problem when you turn the house into an illegal boarding motel with ten people to a room splitting the costs, as is common in areas like Hempstead, New Cassel, etc.
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Asians make schools better when they are a significant part of a schools population. My kids HS here in NC is about 50% Asian and despite the school boards best effort to take it down a notch in the name of equity the only way that’s gonna happen is if you convince all the Asians to move. These kids are locked and loaded from elementary school. If you want your kids in that “rising tide lifts all boats “ atmosphere then you need to look for Asian dominant schools and find a the best house you can in that district. That simple.
The "rising tide lifts all boats" theory of education has been tried, unsuccessfully, for decades. The mere presence of Asian or other higher-achieving students doesn't make a kid from a broken home smarter. It may improve the school's average, but the disadvantaged kids are still going to be dragging that average down. We attempted to do this with bussing and other 60s-era sodalist schemes to no avail - kids don't just learn or get better behaved by osmosis.
Much of the Asian scholastic success model has more to do with their parents forcing them to spend their weekends and summers learning next year's math assignments and practicing their violin instead of being normal kids with a social life. I'm not sure that's something we want to really encourage. Especially when colleges are activitly discriminating against these kids in the admissions process.
Because those that can afford $800K+ homes tend to value education? I’m not claiming LI schools are bad. I’m claiming they might be getting even better, as in more academically rigorous.
Plenty of people value education. Simply because someone can afford over a certain $ doesn't mean they value education any more or less than their peers who can't afford $800K+.
Much of the Asian scholastic success model has more to do with their parents forcing them to spend their weekends and summers learning next year's math assignments and practicing their violin instead of being normal kids with a social life. I'm not sure that's something we want to really encourage. Especially when colleges are activitly discriminating against these kids in the admissions process.
That a partial truth and largely a generalization.
Language is huge driver of success; that is not spoken enough about, to why Asians excel. It is also the reason Asians excel in Music, and have the highest percentage of perfect pitch. Our math is laid out like common core and easier to learn and understand. We also memorize like crazy because Chinese is not phonetic.
That tax on the house is being paid whether someone has lived there 20 years or just moved from NYC or anywhere else. You’re acting like people are coming from NYC and voluntarily paying 20% more in RE taxes.
Asians make schools better when they are a significant part of a schools population. My kids HS here in NC is about 50% Asian and despite the school boards best effort to take it down a notch in the name of equity the only way that’s gonna happen is if you convince all the Asians to move. These kids are locked and loaded from elementary school. If you want your kids in that “rising tide lifts all boats “ atmosphere then you need to look for Asian dominant schools and find a the best house you can in that district. That simple.
Newsflash. LI isn’t NYC. Most of NYC schools literally have nowhere to go but up. And what do you even define as “better” the scores inflate because the kids are supposedly more intelligent? So what? That dosent make the teachers magically “better”, the instruction “better” the services “ “better”.
With children that are more focused and driven to succeed, you waste less time going over the similar questions or repeating a lesson. The teacher is able to dedicate additional time towards other activities or assign more difficult projects but realistically, these kids would still perform well despite the teacher.
NYS has the same curriculum for all grades, regardless of location. Its the same information in LI and NYC, it actually doesn't matter if you are in Gifted and Talented either - all the same. Where you benefit is how quickly they can finish the lesson and specifically the curriculum and move on. As you move on, teachers should easily identify those that are having issues/struggling with new materials, and pair them up with the better students, thereby further improving the school's performance.
Newsflash. LI isn’t NYC. Most of NYC schools literally have nowhere to go but up. And what do you even define as “better” the scores inflate because the kids are supposedly more intelligent? So what? That dosent make the teachers magically “better”, the instruction “better” the services “ “better”.
Couldn’t care less about the quality of teachers. Just like any job, most teachers are average and that’s OK. 90% of a child’s education is the responsibility of the parent anyway.
By better schools I mean schools that don’t cater to the dummies and at least try to work the kids hard. An environment there the child feels a bit of pressure to excel and succeed. When you have too many dummies in a school what tends to happen is that the system takes the path of least resistance and dumbs it down in order to create a new (lower) average. My wife is a NYC DOE teacher so I know better than most.
With children that are more focused and driven to succeed, you waste less time going over the similar questions or repeating a lesson. The teacher is able to dedicate additional time towards other activities or assign more difficult projects but realistically, these kids would still perform well despite the teacher.
NYS has the same curriculum for all grades, regardless of location. Its the same information in LI and NYC, it actually doesn't matter if you are in Gifted and Talented either - all the same. Where you benefit is how quickly they can finish the lesson and specifically the curriculum and move on. As you move on, teachers should easily identify those that are having issues/struggling with new materials, and pair them up with the better students, thereby further improving the school's performance.
100%. Further, I’d add that kids (just like adults) follow their peers. If they see dummies for peers, they’re more apt to do dumb things. If they see peers that excel, they’re more apt to try to emulate them as well.
It’s not complicated. Certain powers have made it seem more complicated than it is because it’s expedient to do so.
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