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"In a NY minute" is a marketing statement, not a fact of life.
Greenville has a ton of NY transplants. They haven't sped anything up to my knowledge. Greenville is one of the most transplanted metros in the country over the past 100 years. I'd be surprised if even 10% of Greenville residents have ancestors who lived in the south during the Civil War. Most people don't understand how small the population of SC was in the civil war era.
The name of cuisine at a restaurant is not related to the geographic location of the city.
If you say people from the north are fast paced, you are saying the cast of the reality show Jersey Shore are fast paced.
I suspect most people living in NY consider a city in the southern part of the country with a NASCAR race and the NASCAR Hall of Fame to be "Southern".
Last edited by LakeMan45; 12-16-2023 at 07:14 AM..
It sounds like he had culture shock and didn't think there was anything to do but go to a brewery and the NASCAR Hall of Fame. He couldn't even get utensils at one restaurant.
Uptown doesn't get mentioned.
I think Greenville would have been a better trip for him.
This isn't my debate, but I would like to add my anecdotal experience. I've spent a bunch of time in Charlotte. To me if doesn't feel 'fast paced'. Other than larger area with bigger buildings I drive around there like I'm right here in this area. As for transplants, that's not just Charlotte. I can't remember the last time I've talked to a Greenville native. I know Charlotte is a great deal larger, but Greenville is also heavily transplanted. Now Atlanta on the other hand is a night and day difference. I dread that city.
Keep in mind NC has the highest gas tax in the southeast and #8 highest in the country.
What does this have to do with Greenville's infrastructure?
Nothing.
Who made this a comparison between Charlotte and Greenville?
You did.
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Originally Posted by DSMRE
This isn't my debate, but I would like to add my anecdotal experience. I've spent a bunch of time in Charlotte. To me if doesn't feel 'fast paced'. Other than larger area with bigger buildings I drive around there like I'm right here in this area. As for transplants, that's not just Charlotte. I can't remember the last time I've talked to a Greenville native. I know Charlotte is a great deal larger, but Greenville is also heavily transplanted. Now Atlanta on the other hand is a night and day difference. I dread that city.
Parts of Charlotte vary, in my experience: some are better than others. When I mentioned fast paced, I wasn't thinking so much about how people comport themselves in stores, but I did think of driving patterns.
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The original post appeared to be soliciting a comparison between Greenville and Charlotte regarding traffic.
Another Charlotte resident posted a long comparison which included stuff not related to infrastructure, and he included Raleigh.
You agreed with that Charlotte resident's opinions about there being a different culture in Charlotte than Greenville.
You seem to have an curious disinterest regarding traffic issues in Charlotte despite living there but a strong interest and frustration with Greenville traffic. If I was not posting on this topic, a person unfamliar with these two metros might think Charlotte has a better traffic situation, based on a Charlotte resident's strong criticism of Greenville's infrastructure.
Accessing Woodruff Rd in Greenville isn't a necessity to enjoy living here. There are plenty of other places to eat and shop that aren't on Woodruff Rd if you think the traffic is unbearable over there. You can access a Target, movie theater, Lowe's, Home Depot, Barnes & Noble, Sam's Club, etc elsewhere in the Greenville metro. Sounds like a new Whole Foods Market store is going to be built in downtown at the University Square development near Falls Park.
Basically the only reason I go to Woodruff Rd is to get something at Academy or Dick's sporting goods or Best Buy. But many people especially young people want to live around Woodruff Road. It is probably hard to find a greater density of shops, restaurants and entertainment venue than the Woodruff - Haywood - Pelham Rd area in Greenville. You don't have to drive long distances to get to a wide variety of stuff.
I grew up in a small town so I think I appreciate how much Greenville has more than perhaps some people who are from big cities.
Last edited by LakeMan45; 12-16-2023 at 04:08 PM..
The original post appeared to be soliciting a comparison between Greenville and Charlotte regarding traffic.
Another Charlotte resident posted a long comparison which included stuff not related to infrastructure, and he included Raleigh.
You agreed with that Charlotte resident's opinions about there being a different culture in Charlotte than Greenville.
You seem to have an curious disinterest regarding traffic issues in Charlotte despite living there but a strong interest and frustration with Greenville traffic. If I was not posting on this topic, a person unfamliar with these two metros might think Charlotte has a better traffic situation, based on a Charlotte resident's strong criticism of Greenville's infrastructure.
Clem, you like to debate simply for the sake of arguing.
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It is ok for people to express a different point of view. Schools and colleges have debate clubs for a reason.
You've said Greenville's infrastructure is horrible. I asked if you could give an example of a city with excellent infrastucture so I could understand where you are coming from. You state that is irrelevant. You also said pointing out traffic issues in Charlotte is irrelevant despite the original post mentioning both cities. I feel like that is an argumentative approach to a discussion.
If other cities are rolling out incredible infrastructure, Greenville should be able to learn from their techniques.
I also asked what you mean when you say people from the north are more fast paced than people from the south. That's a fair question. Seeking understanding of what another person means isn't a negative thing. It is communication.
Let's say a person from the south works in the ER in a small town in the Greenville area. His or her life is likely more hectic than an office worker from the north.
Last edited by LakeMan45; 12-16-2023 at 09:11 PM..
It is ok for people to express a different point of view. Schools and colleges have debate clubs for a reason.
You've said Greenville's infrastructure is horrible. I asked if you could give an example of a city with excellent infrastucture so I could understand where you are coming from. You state that is irrelevant. I feel like that is an argumentative approach to a discussion.
Here's the thing: I am not interested in living anywhere else other than western SC, so any other place, for comparative purposes, is of no interest to me. Why would I introduce it into the discussion?
Charlotte's infrastructure is lacking. What I do like about Charlotte, is that the City is densifying her urban core - it isn't as spread out as Atlanta.
But my interest in Charlotte is waning.
Greenville is perfectly situated geographically; the area is aesthetically attractive; she boasts an incredible number of restaurants and markets; her parks are great; it's a fantastic smaller city.
The Woodruff Road corridor is terrible, and aside from that, segments of 14 get overwhelmed. Other parts of Greenville aren't problematic - today. My concern is over tomorrow, not today: the region is growing, and while the City of GVL has a firm grasp on growth, I have questions about how the County is handling it.
I see Georgia's roads as being superior, but because she's so spread out, traffic is horrible; you well noted Charlotte's issues.
For the time being, my number one complaint about Greenville County is her road signage: Spartanburg Co's signage is superior, in my view.
I spent some time in Greenville and along with everyone else I thought the downtown was beautiful. They really have done an amazing job with it. I also thought North Greenville, the hilly neighborhood just north of downtown, was very pretty.
Most of the rest of the city I found to be fine but not eye-wateringly beautiful. The city has a number of commercial roads that extend out from the city center lined with gas stations, strip malls, fast good etc. And suburban neighborhoods run along those routes. it's perfectly nice but not stunning.
The best feature of course is the foothills of the mountains and I've seen on google maps some of the neighborhoods with mansions sitting right in those foothills. That's a very nice feature for the whole region as well as being so close to Asheville.
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