[Grlzrl]

Originally Posted by beachmouse

Look at who the ‘Moms for Liberty’ really are. It’s ugly.

I have met them. They are fine.

[sinatras]

Most of the people who move to Florida or live in Florida think public education is for woke leftist communists anyway. They could care less about the ACT, SAT or college acceptance. They all just wanna home school their children on guns, freedom and god and have them grow up to be self employed construction workers driving around in F-150s polluting the Chick Fil A drive through. Rinse and repeat.

[andrea3821]

Originally Posted by beachmouse

Then why have scores gone down the longer that DeSantis is in office?

Could it be allowing the white supremacists to set curriculum and a curriculum mandate the discourages critical thinking because it might make a ethnic or racial group ‘feel bad’ is starting to shpw negative results in Florida K-12?

Could it be that local districts did everything they could from March 2020 through the end of the 20-21 school year to make it harder for students to learn?

Could it be that violence in classrooms and on school grounds makes it harder for kids to learn?

Could it be endless throwing money at problems rather than focusing on substantive changes to eliminate problematic behavior?

Could it be even more single moms and part time or absent fathers being focused on other things rather than encouraging school attendance and punishing poor behavior at school?

Could it be that kids just plain do not want to go to college these days? The push going on when I was in high school isn’t happening now, because we have been there, done that and it didn’t work out for us, so we are raising our kids to see alternative ways to earn a living.

There is not just one factor. Our society is going downhill, and with it goes wisdom.

[andrea3821]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

please.....thread is about Florida's ACT scores.....low percentage is because it's not required in those states....and the only ones taking it are the smart ones trying to get into college

that's why a state that only tests 4% have such high averages....college admissions

...and states where it mandatory....test 100%...have such low averages....not college material

9 states require SAT.....not even close to "most" .....15 use ACT > https://www.chariotlearning.com/whic...state-testing/

I took both, did awesome on the ACT and average on the SAT. I was also college bound, and a good student, but didn’t do any particular prep for these. I didn’t know many others taking the ACT, but I knew a lot of upper class kids who did expensive SAT prep classes and did average to good on the SAT. And then you have the kids who take each one multiple times to get the best possible score bc they want to get into a competitive college. I got into UF straight out of high school, but I think things are even more competitive now. Those who are not college bound or are fine with community college first probably would take the SAT only, if anything at all. None are required for high school graduation in FL.

I graduated in 2001 for reference.

[Mathguy]

Hate to break it to you guys but comparing ACT scores between states is expressly advised against by the ACT itself, right there in the chart.

https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/...s-by-State.pdf

In many states the SAT (or ACT) is predominant and the small number of students taking the other are trying for high test scores to get into a specific school and are generally pretty decent students. (aka biased samples)

All this axe grinding over bad data and analysis...sigh.

[andrea3821]

Originally Posted by 1insider

The ACT doesn't test the things that Florida schools are teaching. Nary an Old Testament question on it. Give us a couple more years and we'll have the highest average vacation bible school GPA in the world without our graduates being exposed to woke concepts like evolution or "slavery was bad". These things take time.

I never learned anything about the Bible in public school, and the history lessons all were “slavery is bad” and that’s about it.

[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Hate to break it to you guys but comparing ACT scores between states is expressly advised against by the ACT itself, right there in the chart.

https://www.act.org/content/dam/act/...s-by-State.pdf

In many states the SAT (or ACT) is predominant and the small number of students taking the other are trying for high test scores to get into a specific school and are generally pretty decent students. (aka biased samples)

All this axe grinding over bad data and analysis...sigh.

That's what Floridians excel at though. Grinding axes over bad data and analysis. It's miraculous that they even know how to spell analysis. Thankfully Stormfront and Newsmax post that word from time to time so the ones who think the south won the Civil War have something to copy.

[b29510]

i went to basic school in fla 1-11, they was never a strong education state, but more like ga, al, ms. fla is disney world and horse ranches. they are not education driven

[andrea3821]

Originally Posted by sinatras

Most of the people who move to Florida or live in Florida think education is for woke leftist communists anyway. They could care less about the ACT, SAT or college acceptance. They all just wanna home school their children on guns, freedom and god and have them grow up to be self employed construction workers driving around in F-150s polluting the Chick Fil A drive through. Rinse and repeat.

That’s funny bc homeschoolers do better by most objective measures than public school kids, so clearly we are doing something right. The cool part about our school days is that we can teach them to shoot, we can teach them based on the Bible, we can teach them and have them practice entrepreneurship, we can teach them about the founding fathers, and who cares if they have an F-150 but that’s basically all I see at the rural high schools here, and CFA uses MSG so you won’t find us in that long drive thru.

[Vinnyvette]

FLA is the most successful state in the USA for the last 70 years...more growth, more freedom, less taxes, most attractive state others want to move to...Florida's been winning for 70 years.


And always ranked near the bottom in education… Over the course of those mighty 70 years!
Florida has always been the butt of jokes in the northeast regarding education. These ACT results merely confirm Florida’s less than stellar K-12 education system.
Nice try buddy!