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Old 11-03-2023, 04:28 PM
 
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I've become interested in how several officials, though prominent on the national scene, come off as generally unlikable by their associates. You'd think that liability was pretty crucial.



Ron DeSantis Is All In—on Creating an American Autocracy
DeSantis is not a backslapping politician. He has few social graces and no appetite for socializing, preferring, his staff claims, to spend his “non-office time” with family. As his one-way relationship with the legislature shows, he extracts favors but rarely returns them. “Most politicians, you gain respect from your colleagues and your peers by working with them, by not being a jerk, by having good conversations and good relationships,” says Fried, who now chairs Florida’s Democratic Party. “He cannot do that. So the only way that he’s going to be able to move his agenda is through fear and intimidation.”
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...tis-autocracy/
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Old 11-03-2023, 04:45 PM
 
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I live in Florida. He has done a great job as evidenced by the fact that he won reelection by about twenty points. He single handidly switched Florida from a swing state to solidly Republican. There is not one Democrat in Florida who now holds statewide elected office. For the first time in history Republicans now outnumber Democrats in Florida. I guess Fried would rather forget all that and keep on nominating political corpses like Charlie Crist.
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Old 11-03-2023, 05:11 PM
 
Location: The Bubble, Florida
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I live in Florida. He has done a great job as evidenced by the fact that he won reelection by about twenty points. He single handidly switched Florida from a swing state to solidly Republican. There is not one Democrat in Florida who now holds statewide elected office. For the first time in history Republicans now outnumber Democrats in Florida. I guess Fried would rather forget all that and keep on nominating political corpses like Charlie Crist.
Most Floridians don't focus or obsess with how blue or red their state is. In fact, being solidly blue or red is a BAD thing. It's not brag-worthy, it's shameful. It means the politics of one party will always trump the politics of the other, and no one can do anything about it even if it turns out the politics were harmful to their state.

I don't care what color this state is. What I care about is bodily autonomy for women and their right to medical privacy. I care about children being taught literature, social sciences, ACTUAL history, and critical thinking. I care about people - including children - allowed to discuss their heritage and parentage without fear of "disobeying" a regulation. I care about the separation of Church and State. I care about free and fair elections, and the elimination of gerrymandering. I care about how this state has a surplus, but a forest filled with homeless people and sub-par medical care. I care about people STILL not getting a check from the insurance company for hurricanes that destroyed their homes two years ago, and the Governor helping those insurance companies make bank or leave for better scams in other states instead.

I am not a Democrat. Never was, never will be. I'm one of the people who voted for Ronald Reagan, back in the day. I think desantis has done a horrible job. For the past year, most of "his job" consisted of public relations stunts at taxpayer expense, and campaigning for a federal gig after he changed his own state's laws to give himself permission to remain on the taxpayer dime in Florida while he's out running for president everywhere else.
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Old 11-03-2023, 05:23 PM
 
Location: South Florida
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Most Floridians don't focus or obsess with how blue or red their state is. In fact, being solidly blue or red is a BAD thing. It's not brag-worthy, it's shameful. It means the politics of one party will always trump the politics of the other, and no one can do anything about it even if it turns out the politics were harmful to their state.

I don't care what color this state is. What I care about is bodily autonomy for women and their right to medical privacy. I care about children being taught literature, social sciences, ACTUAL history, and critical thinking. I care about people - including children - allowed to discuss their heritage and parentage without fear of "disobeying" a regulation. I care about the separation of Church and State. I care about free and fair elections, and the elimination of gerrymandering. I care about how this state has a surplus, but a forest filled with homeless people and sub-par medical care. I care about people STILL not getting a check from the insurance company for hurricanes that destroyed their homes two years ago, and the Governor helping those insurance companies make bank or leave for better scams in other states instead.

I am not a Democrat. Never was, never will be. I'm one of the people who voted for Ronald Reagan, back in the day. I think desantis has done a horrible job. For the past year, most of "his job" consisted of public relations stunts at taxpayer expense, and campaigning for a federal gig after he changed his own state's laws to give himself permission to remain on the taxpayer dime in Florida while he's out running for president everywhere else.
Great post!
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Old 11-03-2023, 06:38 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I've become interested in how several officials, though prominent on the national scene, come off as generally unlikable by their associates. You'd think that liability was pretty crucial.



Ron DeSantis Is All In—on Creating an American Autocracy
DeSantis is not a backslapping politician. He has few social graces and no appetite for socializing, preferring, his staff claims, to spend his “non-office time” with family. As his one-way relationship with the legislature shows, he extracts favors but rarely returns them. “Most politicians, you gain respect from your colleagues and your peers by working with them, by not being a jerk, by having good conversations and good relationships,” says Fried, who now chairs Florida’s Democratic Party. “He cannot do that. So the only way that he’s going to be able to move his agenda is through fear and intimidation.”
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...tis-autocracy/

I'd take this report with a very large grain of salt, considering the source. Mother Jones, really?
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Old 11-03-2023, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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The DNC is scared to death of Ron DeSantis's popularity in Florida. So, they've launched a propaganda campaign against him, just as they do against everyone they are afraid could take away their power.

Do you ever see the Left say nice things about highly successful politician on the Right? Don't hold your breath.

It's all radical liberal fake news noise.
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Old 11-03-2023, 08:41 PM
 
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The DNC is scared to death of Ron DeSantis's popularity in Florida. So, they've launched a propaganda campaign against him, just as they do against everyone they are afraid could take away their power.

Do you ever see the Left say nice things about highly successful politician on the Right? Don't hold your breath.

It's all radical liberal fake news noise.
I like Ron, but I still prefer Trump. He seems more entertaining and energizing which is what is good for today's short attention span people. The left hate most Republicans. They hate Trump more which is why they're trying to take him down in NY, DC, FL, and GA courts. They know Trump is the real threat to win next year.
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Old 11-03-2023, 09:14 PM
 
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I've become interested in how several officials, though prominent on the national scene, come off as generally unlikable by their associates. You'd think that liability was pretty crucial.



Ron DeSantis Is All In—on Creating an American Autocracy
DeSantis is not a backslapping politician. He has few social graces and no appetite for socializing, preferring, his staff claims, to spend his “non-office time” with family. As his one-way relationship with the legislature shows, he extracts favors but rarely returns them. “Most politicians, you gain respect from your colleagues and your peers by working with them, by not being a jerk, by having good conversations and good relationships,” says Fried, who now chairs Florida’s Democratic Party. “He cannot do that. So the only way that he’s going to be able to move his agenda is through fear and intimidation.”
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...tis-autocracy/
So, you can't figure out why a left-wing publication which is quoting the chairwoman of Florida's Democrat Party doesn't have good things to say about the REPUBLICAN governor who just happens to be running for President, huh?

Yeah, that is really puzzling. Can't figure that out at all.
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Old 11-04-2023, 06:39 AM
 
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Most Floridians don't focus or obsess with how blue or red their state is. In fact, being solidly blue or red is a BAD thing. It's not brag-worthy, it's shameful. It means the politics of one party will always trump the politics of the other, and no one can do anything about it even if it turns out the politics were harmful to their state.

I don't care what color this state is. What I care about is bodily autonomy for women and their right to medical privacy. I care about children being taught literature, social sciences, ACTUAL history, and critical thinking. I care about people - including children - allowed to discuss their heritage and parentage without fear of "disobeying" a regulation. I care about the separation of Church and State. I care about free and fair elections, and the elimination of gerrymandering. I care about how this state has a surplus, but a forest filled with homeless people and sub-par medical care. I care about people STILL not getting a check from the insurance company for hurricanes that destroyed their homes two years ago, and the Governor helping those insurance companies make bank or leave for better scams in other states instead.

I am not a Democrat. Never was, never will be. I'm one of the people who voted for Ronald Reagan, back in the day. I think desantis has done a horrible job. For the past year, most of "his job" consisted of public relations stunts at taxpayer expense, and campaigning for a federal gig after he changed his own state's laws to give himself permission to remain on the taxpayer dime in Florida while he's out running for president everywhere else.
Best post!
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Old 11-04-2023, 07:26 AM
 
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I'd take this report with a very large grain of salt, considering the source. Mother Jones, really?
read it all....the facts they didn't get flat out wrong....they twisted
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