[Outer_Bluegrass]

Originally Posted by NearFantastica

States with higher wages tend to not have a lower COL... California, New York, Washington, and Massachusetts to name a few

That is not necessarily true.

[MOforthewin]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

I do Aldi, Sprouts, and Wal Mart...never Publix. My utilities are cheaper here, & car & homeowners insurance is less...but we live in a remote part of Sarasota County, & our newish home is 8 miles inland, on X lot, and rated at 160 mph w/ shutters deployed.

I've saved >$100k in taxes in 5 years Georgia vs. Florida.

Traditional grocery stores always seem to cost a lot more. I'm from St. Louis and Schnucks and Dierbergs are like Publix, maybe a tad lower price because of lower fuel and shipping cost. Was nice having a Sams, Costco, and Walmart all nearby and good butcher shops too for meat.

I'm noticing stuff like the disposable paper plates, cups I use have gone way up at wal-mart too! Same ones at dollar Tree are still only $1.25.

How is Sprouts? They're popping up all over the country. Prices high? Supposed to have good produce right? The produce at the Publix stores around me is horrible. Not fresh, and not rotated. Farmer Joes in Cape Coral blows any grocery store away with produce. Prices are high on non produce stuff though but very fresh. It's back open again. I went last week and it was really slow though! I was shocked being season because it's usually a packed place. Their prices went way up on meat though.

I think food is what is killing everyone's money. It's alarming how much groceries have gone up the last 3 years!

Dinning out too! The trick some of these places are pulling is instead of raising the menu prices they're using cheaper quality meats a lot of times, OR they upped the price of their drinks big time.

Food prices way up, yet wages are not keeping up.

It's comical going into Publix and seeing the exact same brand item for 30 percent less.

[1insider]

What can someone moving to Florida expect to pay (ballpark) for property tax and insurance for a $500,000 house? How does that compare to other states?

[beach43ofus]

This article lists the reason why New Yorkers are moving to Florida, and taxes are at the top of the list:

https://www.amgintrealty.com/why-new...ng-to-florida/

Work-from-home (in many cases) means work-from-anywhere, so States are now having to compete for residents/taxpayers.

New York is losing massive numbers of residents/taxpayers (& thus tax revenues) to other states....New York is losing the competition.

True, some places in the State of New York have lower cost-of-living than some places in Florida, but overall, FLA is cheaper:

https://meric.mo.gov/data/cost-living-data-series

imho...the OP's article (posted by a left-leaning NYC media firm) is an attempt to convince New Yorkers to stay, by using a false premise that taxes aside, FLA is more costly than NY...which it's NOT.

With Millions leaving New York, that means the tax burden is falling upon fewer residents/taxpayers that remain there. That means massive tax hikes are in their futures...& cuts in services.

New Yorkers are smart, they see it coming...as does Business Insider, who has a vested interest in trying to stem the outflow of NY'ers moving to FLA. IMHO...the article is biased & misleading, & intends to shape opinion using a false premise, & is thus propaganda...not factual.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

This article lists the reason why New Yorkers are moving to Florida, and taxes are at the top of the list:

https://www.amgintrealty.com/why-new...ng-to-florida/

Work-from-home (in many cases) means work-from-anywhere, so States are now having to compete for residents/taxpayers.

New York is losing massive numbers of residents/taxpayers (& thus tax revenues) to other states....New York is losing the competition.

True, some places in the State of New York have lower cost-of-living than some places in Florida, but overall, FLA is cheaper:

https://meric.mo.gov/data/cost-living-data-series

imho...the OP's article (posted by a left-leaning NYC media firm) is an attempt to convince New Yorkers to stay, by using a false premise that taxes aside, FLA is more costly than NY...which it's NOT.

With Millions leaving New York, that means the tax burden is falling upon fewer residents/taxpayers that remain there. That means massive tax hikes are in their futures...& cuts in services.

New Yorkers are smart, they see it coming...as does Business Insider, who has a vested interest in trying to stem the outflow of NY'ers moving to FLA. IMHO...the article is biased & misleading, & intends to shape opinion using a false premise, & is thus propaganda...not factual.

I think the article is very balanced; it says Florida is cheaper for some, and more expensive for others. That's exactly right. Not EVERYTHING is a left wing or right wing media conspiracy.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by 1insider

What can someone moving to Florida expect to pay (ballpark) for property tax and insurance for a $500,000 house? How does that compare to other states?

It's impossible to predict and it's based on which way the insurance company farts that day. Completely subjective (IE a scam). One house may pay 10k a year and the house right next to it (same build, same age, same street, same condition) may pay 3k a year (3K a year for property insurance in Fla is very cheap at this juncture).

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by MOforthewin

Traditional grocery stores always seem to cost a lot more. I'm from St. Louis and Schnucks and Dierbergs are like Publix, maybe a tad lower price because of lower fuel and shipping cost. Was nice having a Sams, Costco, and Walmart all nearby and good butcher shops too for meat.

I'm noticing stuff like the disposable paper plates, cups I use have gone way up at wal-mart too! Same ones at dollar Tree are still only $1.25.

How is Sprouts? They're popping up all over the country. Prices high? Supposed to have good produce right? The produce at the Publix stores around me is horrible. Not fresh, and not rotated. Farmer Joes in Cape Coral blows any grocery store away with produce. Prices are high on non produce stuff though but very fresh. It's back open again. I went last week and it was really slow though! I was shocked being season because it's usually a packed place. Their prices went way up on meat though.

I think food is what is killing everyone's money. It's alarming how much groceries have gone up the last 3 years!

Dinning out too! The trick some of these places are pulling is instead of raising the menu prices they're using cheaper quality meats a lot of times, OR they upped the price of their drinks big time.

Food prices way up, yet wages are not keeping up.

It's comical going into Publix and seeing the exact same brand item for 30 percent less.

Publix!

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by sinatras

I think the article is very balanced; it says Florida is cheaper for some, and more expensive for others. That's exactly right. Not EVERYTHING is a left wing or right wing media conspiracy.

I found it suspect that Business Insider posted 2 negative articles about Florida, simultaneously, on its home page w/ the same premise...New Yorkers moving to Florida...beware Both using erroneous info, that some (like me) would describe as scare tactics.

One article (the OP's) focuses upon cost of living & taxes, the other upon rising real estate costs.

No positive articles about FLA, & no negative articles about any other States...2 negative articles about FLA posted by a left-leaning NYC media outlet....hmm.

imho...its beyond suspicious, but I respect your opinion that it's just a weird coincidence. We can let others here decide for themselves. I felt compelled to point out Business Outsiders' potential motive behind posting these articles...mission accomplished.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by 1insider

What can someone moving to Florida expect to pay (ballpark) for property tax and insurance for a $500,000 house? How does that compare to other states?

Each property differs, so its hard to do apples to apples comparison.

We bought our new FLA home 4.5 yrs ago for $550k...paid cash so no lender can mandate coverage.

Flood: Tower Hill quote for '22 was $773/yr. We're 8 mi.s inland on "X" flood zone (higher elevation). We passed.

Homeowners: $1,311/yr. we paid it. Our home is cinder block, hip flat tile roof...wind rating is 160 mph w/ shutters deployed.

I don't see $1,311 as being high at all. Our policy covers wind driven rain, & is with Olympus.

I have no idea what New York's insurance costs would be, but I'd use a Long Island property 8 miles from the coast as a comparison.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

True, some places in the State of New York have lower cost-of-living than some places in Florida, but overall, FLA is cheaper:

it wouldn't matter if Florida was cheaper, the same, or even more expensive

for a lot of people in New York....Florida is their #1 vacation destination

to jump for the chance to work under a palm tree....run around in shorts and flip flops all year

....that's the biggest draw