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Old 11-09-2010, 03:15 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Let them take umbrage. I see them as not being masculine. If they have a problem with it, they can take it up with me, and we'll have ourselves a donnybrook.
They don't have a problem with it, but the mere thought of you at 5'6" tall and 130 lbs having a Donnybrook with even one burly Highlander wearing a kilt is excruciatingly funny.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:29 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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They don't have a problem with it, but the mere thought of you at 5'6" tall and 130 lbs having a Donnybrook with even one burly Highlander wearing a kilt is excruciatingly funny.
Heck, I'd pay to see that!

Regardless of TKramar's feelings about skirts, the fact remains that gender-specific dress codes are antiquated and impractical. And I'm no "feminist" either, just somebody who was raised with a sense of individual freedom... I have no problem following basic dress guidelines (and often have), but nobody's forcing me to wear a freakin' skirt and pantyhose every day.

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Old 11-09-2010, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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Call this man feminine to his face... I dare ya.
Bruhahaha...Thanks for the laugh this AM, I'm from the PNW and have been to most of the Pacific Rim Countries and most wear a "wrap skirt" of some sort every day depending on the weather.

Just google some of these guys!

Polynesians
Fijians
Samoans (take a look at all who play football!)
Maoris
Indonesians

The list goes on and on, they might call it something different like sarong or Pareo etc. but they are so comfortable and utiliarian - they can be worn so many differnt ways!

Again gizmo, thanks for the entertainment - I needed a laugh today as I face another day of endlessly searching for jobs that aren't there.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:15 AM
 
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I don't like it when the "man" tells me to shave my beard and cut my hair. Fight the power!
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:58 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I don't like it when the "man" tells me to shave my beard and cut my hair. Fight the power!
I find that a bit silly too, unless maybe you're working around food or heavy machinery... if you can keep long hair & a beard neat, I don't see what the problem is?
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:04 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Again gizmo, thanks for the entertainment - I needed a laugh today as I face another day of endlessly searching for jobs that aren't there.
Glad I could provide some laughter, and keep your head up... you'll find a job eventually!

We have a fairly large Samoan population here (no pun intended), and they couldn't be any more masculine - at least in appearance, although quite often they're sweet puppy-dogs underneath. And THIS straight woman doesn't find anything "feminine" about their skirts... I actually think they're incredibly sexy, and those cultural dances make me swoon like a teenage girl.

That's it - I'm moving to the island of Samoa! LOL
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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Glad I could provide some laughter, and keep your head up... you'll find a job eventually!

We have a fairly large Samoan population here (no pun intended), and they couldn't be any more masculine - at least in appearance, although quite often they're sweet puppy-dogs underneath. And THIS straight woman doesn't find anything "feminine" about their skirts... I actually think they're incredibly sexy, and those cultural dances make me swoon like a teenage girl.

That's it - I'm moving to the island of Samoa! LOL
Heaven's my...I thought I was the only one here who likes Pacific men. You just opened up a can of worms. I just finished watching Spartacus Season 1. So if you like Kiwis I recommend that series, and check out Manu Bennet as Crixus..he steals the entire show..forget Sparty.

Hope you know Dwayne Johnson "The Rock" is Samoan.

But back to the subject, plenty of men both in Scotland and in the Pacific who are anything but "feminine" or "transgender." I speak from personal experience.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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Heck, I'd pay to see that!

Regardless of TKramar's feelings about skirts, the fact remains that gender-specific dress codes are antiquated and impractical. And I'm no "feminist" either, just somebody who was raised with a sense of individual freedom... I have no problem following basic dress guidelines (and often have), but nobody's forcing me to wear a freakin' skirt and pantyhose every day.
While I agree with you from a philosophical perspective, the bottom line is that a private company has every right to set a dress code if they wish. If people don't like it, they can choose to work elsewhere. Especially if that information is know to a person before they accept the job. Its kind of like taking a job at Hooters and then complaining that they make you dress like a bit of a bimbo.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:35 AM
 
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I suspect you can take anything to extremes. Wearing a tie is sexual discrimination? Give me a break...
If one gender has to do it and the other doesn't, then that's what it is. The cultural trainings of individuals doesn't change the reality of it.

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think we have reached a place in the United States yet where employees can make their own rules. Heaven help us all when the time comes when this happens. As it is, employers have trouble coping with government regulations and unions, many companies solve the problem by moving off shore where the general population is still willing to work for their pay check. There are many people here, now in the United States that would gladly meet an employers dress code with a smile on their face, just to have a job. Some so called 'workers' are pathetic.
The rub, I suppose, is that a willingness to dress a certain way rarely qualifies an individual to a job. I also think it's interesting how cultural trends apply in some areas of business, but not others.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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With all the objection to dresss codes from people who rebell aginst anyhtig require;I guess we might see unifroms more and more which will pass any court testing. Then hear people scream.
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