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Old 09-07-2011, 05:37 PM
 
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FWIW, I think the days of an employer telling you "show up at 9am tomorrow" after a walk-in a long gone. We need to create our own jobs at this point, by any means necessary. The jobs are gone. Companies have figured out how to gimp the system, set up a po box in Zug, Switzerland and not pay any US taxes. I'm starting my own online business...but the learning curve is hell. Will be at LEAST 2-3 years before I can make a full-time income and pay off my debts from it. It is survival of the fittest at this point. There are worse things, like being a law grad (of which I am thankful I am not one of them!)
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Old 09-07-2011, 05:39 PM
 
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And like I said before, you start a side business once you get a job and if it pops then you can quit and focus on that business.
I don't think that's the best way to go about it. Starting a business takes a lot of time out of you. Spending time working somewhere else would be wasting time you could be putting into your business.

I've seen people who want to be business owners fail solely because they focus on their "day job" too much rather than putting all their efforts into their own venture.

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Old 09-07-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: West Coast
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FWIW, I think the days of an employer telling you "show up at 9am tomorrow" after a walk-in a long gone. We need to create our own jobs at this point, by any means necessary. The jobs are gone. Companies have figured out how to gimp the system, set up a po box in Zug, Switzerland and not pay any US taxes. I'm starting my own online business...but the learning curve is hell. Will be at LEAST 2-3 years before I can make a full-time income and pay off my debts from it. It is survival of the fittest at this point. There are worse things, like being a law grad (of which I am thankful I am not one of them!)
I agree with this.
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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You should start grooming dogs since you have experience in that area. You don't have to have a business degree to start your own business you know. I'm sure you would excell at a dog grooming business!
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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You should start grooming dogs since you have experience in that area. You don't have to have a business degree to start your own business you know. I'm sure you would excell at a dog grooming business!
We have one in town that has a converted box truck. They make rounds, park in front of a customers house, groom the dog in the truck and move on to the next job.

I also agree about having the day job getting in your way. If security is what you crave you don't want to own your own business anyway.

You got to have the guts to go for it.
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Destrehan, Louisiana
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FWIW, I think the days of an employer telling you "show up at 9am tomorrow" after a walk-in a long gone. We need to create our own jobs at this point, by any means necessary. The jobs are gone. Companies have figured out how to gimp the system, set up a po box in Zug, Switzerland and not pay any US taxes. I'm starting my own online business...but the learning curve is hell. Will be at LEAST 2-3 years before I can make a full-time income and pay off my debts from it. It is survival of the fittest at this point. There are worse things, like being a law grad (of which I am thankful I am not one of them!)

You better stick to working for someone else if your plan is to make money in 2 - 3 years because you will be broke long before that.

busta
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Old 09-07-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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You better stick to working for someone else if your plan is to make money in 2 - 3 years because you will be broke long before that.

busta
How so?
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Old 09-07-2011, 07:19 PM
 
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CPV traffic taking more than 3 years to turn a profit? I dont think so. I have already made money doing it. My point was that my debts are such that I need to make six figures to get to the place I want to be. Lots of people I know do it. Working for someone else will *never* get you out of debt, at least not the kind grads are accumulating these days. Those jobs are gone. $80,000 for a bachelor's degree? I dont think so "busta".
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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W/O vast knowledege of a field and some capital a person could/would be dead in the water.

I went that route to a degree. Thought I knew it all but found out differently after a while but with perseverence made it thru. Did my homework and long hrs paid off. Had started 6 self owned business enterprises over a 36 yr span and they all worked out just fine.

Problem today is the entitlement factor and the need to just put in a 8 hr day...go home and have a beer for many folks. Business owners put in more then a 8 hr day to get where they are...employees should take that under consideration regarding their future.

Go to any Industrial area and you will see the lights on at a small shop where the owner is working late into the night after some employess have gone home. Some this in my area on many ocassions as I was one of them.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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Problem today is the entitlement factor and the need to just put in a 8 hr day...go home and have a beer for many folks.

Business owners put in more then a 8 hr day to get where they are...employees should take that under consideration regarding their future.
These are two very different issues and warrnt different perspectives.
Too many have a martyr mentality that they MUST put i the extra hours.

So I'll take the opposite view here...
that EMPLOYEES should not be expected to work more than that 8hr day.

They SHOULD be able to go home and have a beer on the porch or take the kid to a little league game
and know that this still earns them enough to afford the house that porch is attached to...
and without any sort of guilt trip laid on them for wanting these things on these terms.

If more of the people who are putting in all those hours (with OT pay or not)
were doing something else with that time then more of the others might find a job more easily.
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If the business owner has other motivations in their life? Good for them.
Presumably at least one of those motivations will be significantly greater earnings.
That money might even be enough to make up for the other opportunities they chose against.
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