What jobs are not "At Will" or "right to work"? (employees, average)
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Who out there does a job that is not "At Will" or not "Right to Work". I'm tired of being laid off because of favoritism even when I met or exceed job expectations.
I'm looking for union jobs. What companies or organizations have strong unions.
I have the obvious- police officer, ups carrier, gov jobs.
Is the anything else someone can think of?
I'd rather make 50K a year from a relatively secure job then have the potential to make 100K and be laid off.
Anyone can be laid off. Look what happened to police officers and teachers this year.
Typically they call for a way to lay off though. For example, at my job almost 10% of our group was laid off. In a normal company that would probably be the top 10% costing the company the most. However union rules dictate furloughs happen in reverse seniority. So the least expensive guys got the axe.
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Typically they call for a way to lay off though. For example, at my job almost 10% of our group was laid off. In a normal company that would probably be the top 10% costing the company the most. However union rules dictate furloughs happen in reverse seniority. So the least expensive guys got the axe.
Which is why the tax payers and consumers of government services get the shaft ... It should be merit-based versus blind seniority where the burnt-out, ineffective employees get laid off and the energetic, productive employees get to keep their jobs. I don't care how it's done in private industries but when it comes to public employees, the taxpayers are the true employers and we should get more bang for our bucks.
I work for a foreign company unde the work rules of that country. There is no Right to Work rules. if a labor company or position, your part of the labor union. But our union is nothing like american unions just like management is nothing like american management. They work together.
We also are not At-Will employees. We can only be terminated for cause and you can request a fair hearing on the cause. If you request a hearing, a panel of 5 people are assmebled (like a jury) 1 must be in the position you hold or knowlegable about your job, 1 must be from your work group, and 1 must oversea the area involving your termination. So if safety, the person must work in health & safety, if regulatory, the person must be in regulatory liason. The rest are picked in rotation. If you convince them that your termination wasn't justified or you have specil circumatances, they can vote to retain you or retain with conditions. The ruling is final on all.
We can be laid off, have operations terminated, or anything else, they just have to place the reason in writing. If they want to let you go because your feet stink, thet let you go. So long as they place the reason in writting and provide the required severance package, thet can do it. If they don;t want to pay severance & benefits (8 months same as work), it has to be for cause.
Union jobs do have lay offs as does all governement jobs. It may not be so wham-bam out the door goodby, but it happens.
Typically they call for a way to lay off though. For example, at my job almost 10% of our group was laid off. In a normal company that would probably be the top 10% costing the company the most. However union rules dictate furloughs happen in reverse seniority. So the least expensive guys got the axe.
Not sure how that helps the OP considering he is just looking to get in to one of these jobs. He would be first out.
Start a business. You won't get laid off unless your half of you dislikes you.
And what type of business do you think he should start? Dog Walking? Hot dog stand? Or maybe he should take out a small business loan and open up a manufacturing company right? Opening a business in America for the average person with not a lot of capital is worthless, unless you have a groundbreaking idea as well. 50 years ago anyone could open up any business and be fairly successful. At least make enough to support a family and a middle class lifestyle.
And what type of business do you think he should start? Dog Walking? Hot dog stand? Or maybe he should take out a small business loan and open up a manufacturing company right? Opening a business in America for the average person with not a lot of capital is worthless, unless you have a groundbreaking idea as well. 50 years ago anyone could open up any business and be fairly successful. At least make enough to support a family and a middle class lifestyle.
I disagree. I did it without any financial backing, without a loan, and without a unique idea. I copied it off of another company that I worked for. The problem is that people don't try. It's not that they cannot.
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And what type of business do you think he should start? Dog Walking? Hot dog stand? Or maybe he should take out a small business loan and open up a manufacturing company right? Opening a business in America for the average person with not a lot of capital is worthless, unless you have a groundbreaking idea as well. 50 years ago anyone could open up any business and be fairly successful. At least make enough to support a family and a middle class lifestyle.
