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Old 11-01-2013, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I don't know. I have to go down at least 10 degrees to notice something. Honestly I don't people pay much attention to the sun angle at all. Especially if you compare Leeds and Paris.

Well, if you're a geek like me, you'd probably notice.

 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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I don't know. I have to go down at least 10 degrees to notice something. Honestly I don't people pay much attention to the sun angle at all. Especially if you compare Leeds and Paris.
Well when I go from here to England I notice a bit but I have to go to Spain to notice it and when I go there I really notice it. In the summer it was dark there three hours before here. It was really really weird.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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Perhaps I'm more sensitive to such things than others or just have more interest in them while most people don't care, but I can tell the difference between a midwinter overcast day at 51N and one at 54N by how much earlier the streetlights come on compared to the actual sunset time - only by about five minutes, but the difference is there, and obviously the mornings take that same bit longer to get bright after the sun has risen. Likewise, feeling some strength in the sun for the first time in the year my first late February in London "didn't feel quite right" compared to the early March I'm used to that same milestone happening here.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Perhaps I'm more sensitive to such things than others or just have more interest in them while most people don't care, but I can tell the difference between a midwinter overcast day at 51N and one at 54N by how much earlier the streetlights come on compared to the actual sunset time - only by about five minutes, but the difference is there. Likewise, feeling some strength in the sun for the first time in the year my first late February in London "didn't feel quite right" compared to the early March I'm used to that same milestone happening here.
Yes so do I. When I watch the news at 10 it is actually dark in London and the sun is up here still.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I can definitely notice the difference in day length between here and London in the summer, but it's the lingering twilight that is most noticeable here compared to the south.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Finland
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BTW, talking about the sun: the UV index went permanently under 1.0 today and the border is now in the Gulf of Finland.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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I can definitely notice the difference in day length between here and London in the summer.
Oh yes, the lingering twilight is very different even if you ignore the extra 20 minutes the sun is in the sky in the evenings. I remember trying to explain to somebody in London that you only have to come up to our latitude to get summer nights when the sky never gets 100% dark, but he refused to believe that was possible outside the Arctic Circle. If I remember rightly the last of the blue disappears down there at about 11.15pm on the longest day, maybe a little later if a front has just passed.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:37 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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I can definitely notice the difference in day length between here and London in the summer, but it's the lingering twilight that is most noticeable here compared to the south.
Yes and it actually gets dark in London in the summer. Like pitch dark.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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12:14am. It always looks like that.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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When I visited southeast England the first time in December, I was in shock at how low the sun was at afternoon, when it wasn't completely cloudy. The rare times that I could see the sun in winter, it barely rose above the rooftops on level ground. I went back in January the first time, and I noticed that the sun down here at 40°N is pretty high compared to there, definitely on par with central Spain.

My OH remarked the same thing her first winter here. She couldn't believe how, for one, how sunny it is down here. Two, how high the sun rose. And Owen is right, the sun here does crap all to melt the snow if it's below freezing. You can barely feel the sun's warmth if you are beside your window or inside your car, though. Our UV index down here is 2, I believe, in the dead of winter.
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