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Old 02-07-2016, 10:05 AM
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A simple Google search will prove that that's complete bull****. I don't know why people always say this **** without looking it up.
Because it's correct, look it up more carefully

https://twitter.com/sarahkliff/statu...83269070028800
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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Because it's correct, look it up more carefully

https://twitter.com/sarahkliff/statu...83269070028800
OK, I stand corrected. I was simply looking at heat vs. cold, which was my mistake...



Tbh though, I feel like winter-related automobile accidents are caused more by people being stupid rather than blame it on the cold. People are always warned to not drive during a winter storm.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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OK, I stand corrected. I was simply looking at heat vs. cold, which was my mistake...



Tbh though, I feel like winter-related automobile accidents are caused more by people being stupid rather than blame it on the cold. People are always warned to not drive during a winter storm.
U live in Miami so u don't understand. People are forced to. My father was coming home at midnight from work when the accident happened. In 2014 during the big mess in January it took him 5 hours to get to his job due to the mess in the roads only to be told go home once he got to work and it took him another 5 to get home. People are called to work even during these storms but the shear majority of people who are on the roads are people who are forced to then you might have a few idiots.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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Regarding on-off daily deviations (and not considering the frequency of such devoations), after checking numerous locations in non-western America and Europe, they seem pretty even to me. For example, the record low high is 22°C below average in Churchill, MB. In Helsinki it's 30°C below normal. it's 18°C and 19°C below in NYC and Bucharest, respectively.
Everything depends on if it's common to reach close to the record low or if it was an one-off. Because the Helsinki January 1987 was once in a 100 years event.

BTW, I almost lost my own life when I was 18. It was summer and I drove stupidly.

Secondly, the heat wave of 2003 killed 60,000 people in Europe. This January cold wave some 200 people.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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U live in Miami so u don't understand. People are forced to. My father was coming home at midnight from work when the accident happened. In 2014 during the big mess in January it took him 5 hours to get to his job due to the mess in the roads only to be told go home once he got to work and it took him another 5 to get home. People are called to work even during these storms but the shear majority of people who are on the roads are people who are forced to then you might have a few idiots.
Yeah, I wasn't saying all accidents are caused by that, but a lot of accidents are caused by people unnecessarily going out during storms. Honestly, I think employers are huge dickheads for calling their employees in to work during a winter storm. A few days off isn't going to kill the company.


BTW, I haven't lived in Miami all my life and I have dealt with snow before. I would honestly rather lose my job than my life, I would tell my employer to **** off if he told me to go into work during an ice storm.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:31 AM
 
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Also last year my uncle was driving and his car slipped on ice flipped over and nearly flipped over the bridge into the river. He too was forced to go to work.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:32 AM
 
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Yeah, I wasn't saying all accidents are caused by that, but a lot of accidents are caused by people unnecessarily going out during storms. Honestly, I think employers are huge dickheads for calling their employees in to work during a winter storm. A few days off isn't going to kill the company.
Corporate america. That's just how it goes I guess. Honestly most people won't be out during the storm so why do businesses need to open and risk their employees lives only to make a few measly dollars.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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Also last year my uncle was driving and his car slipped on ice flipped over and nearly flipped over the bridge into the river. He too was forced to go to work.
Well, here is your solution:



Buy them or play with your life. The solution exists.


North Carolina

Studded Tires are permitted.

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Old 02-07-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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Have you tried to drive on snow with summer tires before? If yes, which of the following situations is the driving comfort using them closer to?
1. Driving on snow with summer tires
2. Driving on bare asphalt

As I've never lived in a snowy location I've never used winter tires but boy, driving on snow unequipped is a pain.



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Everything depends on if it's common to reach close to the record low or if it was an one-off. Because the Helsinki January 1987 was once in a 100 years event.
Yeah, but aren't all records once in a 100 year events? Last month alone Helsinki airport had two days with 20°C+ anomalies, similar to Churchill's record.


Conted the number of days with 15°C+ negative anomalies on the mean since 1960 for those 4 random cities. Helsinki is outta the more variable one from that panel:

72 Helsinki
13 Churchill
6 New York
6 Bucharest


Btw I only looked at January for NYC before, considering all three winter months the difference is much larger, at 23°C.

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Old 02-07-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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Snowing in NC northeast of Fayetteville.



Meanwhile I'm at 51F.
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