The US South is subtropical paradise (Ohio, Alabama, Houston, Texas)
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I will only show Houston for now as you already showed pics of New Orleans earlier in this thread, and Corpus and Tampa are very warm cities that are expected to grow these plants.
I will only show Houston for now as you already showed pics of New Orleans earlier in this thread, and Corpus and Tampa are very warm cities that are expected to grow these plants.
You just ripped those pics from various websites. Clearly they are not taken by you. The first pic is obviously from a real estate site, and the 4th pic is just a logo!
I will only show Houston for now as you already showed pics of New Orleans earlier in this thread, and Corpus and Tampa are very warm cities that are expected to grow these plants.
Clearly you didn't take these pics, unlike my photos. Sorry but I don't believe you went anywhere in the South and I don't believe you saw any of the plants you described.
You have no credibility when it comes to climate in the US South.
Clearly you didn't take these pics, unlike my photos. Sorry but I don't believe you went anywhere in the South and I don't believe you saw any of the plants you described.
You have no credibility when it comes to climate in the US South.
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Originally Posted by LuvMyChicken
You just ripped those pics from various websites. Clearly they are not taken by you. The first pic is obviously from a real estate site, and the 4th pic is just a logo!
I never said that the pictures posted were taken by me.
I do have real pictures of my travels over my time in the Gulf Coast, taken with my phone camera. I am in the process of uploading the pictures.
Regardless of whether those photos were mine or not, those are actual pictures of actual plant specimen of those kinds growing easily in H-Town. H-Town, and NOLA, are high 9B, nigh 10A climates, and those plants can grow rather easily in spite of getting damaged by freezes occasionally(like all subtropical places get at one time or another), due to warm temps with lots of sunshine in winter and summer. Corpus Christi, and Tampa are borderline tropical cities that have coconut palms growing. Where else in the world do you have coconuts outside the tropics?
Tom77Falcons, you live in Philly, which is in the North, and yet you are talking about people having no credibility when it comes to the South, thats some good irony right there.
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Originally Posted by Mac15
In pictures of the place i'm staying in there are big massive massive palms with trunks about 3m in diameter.
Where is this place you are staying at? What kind of palm is it?
I never said that the pictures posted were taken by me.
I do have real pictures of my travels over my time in the Gulf Coast, taken with my phone camera. I am in the process of uploading the pictures.
Regardless of whether those photos were mine or not, those are actual pictures of actual plant specimen of those kinds growing easily in H-Town. H-Town, and NOLA, are high 9B, nigh 10A climates, and those plants can grow rather easily in spite of getting damaged by freezes occasionally(like all subtropical places get at one time or another), due to warm temps with lots of sunshine in winter and summer. Corpus Christi, and Tampa are borderline tropical cities that have coconut palms growing. Where else in the world do you have coconuts outside the tropics?
Tom77Falcons, you live in Philly, which is in the North, and yet you are talking about people having no credibility when it comes to the South, thats some good irony right there.
Where is this place you are staying at? What kind of palm is it?
I never said that the pictures posted were taken by me.
I do have real pictures of my travels over my time in the Gulf Coast, taken with my phone camera. I am in the process of uploading the pictures.
Regardless of whether those photos were mine or not, those are actual pictures of actual plant specimen of those kinds growing easily in H-Town. H-Town, and NOLA, are high 9B, nigh 10A climates, and those plants can grow rather easily in spite of getting damaged by freezes occasionally(like all subtropical places get at one time or another), due to warm temps with lots of sunshine in winter and summer. Corpus Christi, and Tampa are borderline tropical cities that have coconut palms growing. Where else in the world do you have coconuts outside the tropics?
Tom77Falcons, you live in Philly, which is in the North, and yet you are talking about people having no credibility when it comes to the South, thats some good irony right there.
Where is this place you are staying at? What kind of palm is it?
Here. I'm not saying the area.
Not sure if the trees are big but they looked big compared to the ones I seen in Palm Beach
I will only show Houston for now as you already showed pics of New Orleans earlier in this thread, and Corpus and Tampa are very warm cities that are expected to grow these plants.
Those can all grow in Los Angeles too, as well as most other warmish & Med type climates, it does NOT make it a "sub-tropical paradise"
Plants alone are not proof, as micro-climates in even colder areas can support more tender plants.
True paradise would be a deserted beach, with white sand & crystal clear water, with coconuts behind the beach...
You see that? Outside of the US South, if you want to grow coconut palms outside the tropics, you have to be on islands in the middle of the ocean. Correct me if I am wrong, but the US South seems to be the only place on the planet where you can grow coconuts on the mainland outside the tropics. The Gulf of Mexico is a very warm ocean that warms the climate up significantly, and sends insular conditions far into the interior of North America (the subtropical region in North America extends farther inland than any other subtropical region in the world).
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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!
Those can all grow in Los Angeles too, as well as most other warmish & Med type climates, it does NOT make it a "sub-tropical paradise"
The US South is subtropical paradise due to that Gulf of Mexico influence. It is a very warm ocean, like bath water, and thus, locations by the body of water have warm, wet subtropical climates compared to other places at the same latitude. The US South has NATIVE crocodililians and parrots, as well as palm trees, all of which are indicators of warm climates. The US South has a TROPICAL region OUTSIDE the tropics, that is how warm it is.
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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!
Plants alone are not proof, as micro-climates in even colder areas can support more tender plants.
The fact that those papayas can grow with that quality in H-Town shows just how subtropical the city is. Jalepenos, sugar cane, papayas, stawberries, mangoes, loqauts, litchis, Queen Palms, Dates, etc can all be cultivated in H-Town easily. A huge sugar cane empire exists around the city, and extends down the coastline to South Texas and east to Louisiana.
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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!
True paradise would be a deserted beach, with white sand & crystal clear water, with coconuts behind the beach...
The coastline of the US South fits that description quite well!
You see that? Outside of the US South, if you want to grow coconut palms outside the tropics, you have to be on islands in the middle of the ocean. Correct me if I am wrong, but the US South seems to be the only place on the planet where you can grow coconuts on the mainland outside the tropics. The Gulf of Mexico is a very warm ocean that warms the climate up significantly, and sends insular conditions far into the interior of North America (the subtropical region in North America extends farther inland than any other subtropical region in the world).
Coconut palms can be found as far south as Brisbane, about the same latitude as Florida and southernmost Texas.
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