Astrology - Entertainment or Hoax (secret, government, light, vision)
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Most astrologers today who actually make a living from Astrology take a psychological approach. The old reading and prediction orientation has gone out the window. Personally, I think it has lost much of it charm. The psychologist have ruined it.
Myers Briggs Type Indicator. It's a set of questions that come up with a personality type at the end. Tends to get used on management courses so that people can talk about themselves for a bit and have big realisations about the way they react in certain situations.
I'm very much in two minds about astrology. My logical brain is telling me it's nonsense, but there does seem to be a pattern relating personalities to when you were born. I'm a totally classic gemini, and I think I always have been from when I was little, I didn't grow into those characteristics as I wasn't aware of them until I was a teenager probably!
I don't, however, think it's got an awful lot to do with any formations of stars that happen to create that particular pattern that someone happened to think looked a bit like a scorpion just because of an accident of parallax...
It could be down to anything at all, something we've not discovered yet maybe.
I've been attracted to astrology for most of my life. My interest continually waxes and wanes. Initially, an astrologer friend challenged me to dis-prove it. Of course, that required some serious study that went way beyond reading newspaper horoscopes. Through an in-depth study, I came to the conclusion that it actually had a great deal of validity.
That being said, I rarely look at my chart or consult with an astrologer. I schedule a consultation perhaps every 2 or 3 years, especially if I'm facing some significant challenges or planning a big step forward in my life. I take the information from the consultation into consideration when making decisions, along with many other factors. It has proven helpful from time to time, when no clear solution was apparent using more traditional means. The best use of astrology that I am aware of is for the purpose of relocation. I used relocation astrology to help me find a great new place to live. During the 1st 18 months in my new location, my experience has closely paralled the description of living here contained in the relocation report.
Astrology is not for everyone. To benefit from it requires a willingness to go beyond the negative cultural bias. It requires an open minded attitude, and a willingness to explore, read some books, and perhaps take some classes. Without doing so, a person has no basis for saying that astrology has validity or not. It's merely a repetiton of the ingrained cultural bias against astrology. Such opinions carry no weight, but everyone is welcome to express their opinion.
I've studied astrology for fifteen years and it is definitely true. HOWEVER, I've found Eastern or Hindu astrology to be more accurate than Western. Almost all horoscopes in the U.S. are based on the Western Sun Sign and something called SOLAR HOUSES. If the horoscope rings true this is most likely the system the astrologer is using. The planets are placed around the wheel according to where they are from the perspective of the natal Sun sign. The astrologer then interprets for that month where all the planets are highlighting which houses might dominate most. This is March, a month when many inner planets (Mercury, Venus, Sun, etc.) are in either Aquarius or Pisces. Therefore this month tends to be a big energy boost for both of those signs. If you are an Aquarius or Pisces you will have to put your hardheaded beliefs aside and admit that what I'm saying is true. You get more energy in the late winter and early spring, period.
Your monthly horoscope isn't telling you what is going to happen or what you should do; all a horoscope can tell you is WHAT IS THE QUALITY OF YOUR CYCLES, what is happening now. That is why some horoscopes ring true. 4th house domestic transits are pathetically easy to predict from the Solar perspective. I've been in a serious domestic crisis ever since Pluto went in to my Solar 4th house: I moved to a radically different city and have felt very displaced and alone. Did the transit cause it? No, it is a cycle, something I apparently have to go through. I've charted my own transits for many years and once in a while, ok, on a regular basis, just like all Americans, read my horoscope, for fun, because a fresh perspective never hurts.
As I mentioned earlier in the post I prefer the Eastern or Hindu system better. The Eastern perspective simply rolls the planets back 23 degrees to take in to account what is called the ayanasma. Western astrology is based on the Solar Calendar and seasons while Eastern astrology is based on the stars and where the planets actually are in the sky. In the Western system I'm a Libra but in the Hindu system I'm a Virgo.
Joni Patry is an Eastern astrologer based in Dallas, Texas. Her monthly horoscopes and yearly predictions are very right on.
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Originally Posted by WannaBNorCal
I used to read the horoscopes, still do occasionally, then I worked with a spiritual astrologer and found some things to be right on.
Lately, when I read my horoscopes, they're right on.
Hoax or facts?
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Relocation astrology, if done correctly, is very true. I made the mistake of throwing caution to the wind when I moved to Salt Lake 3 years ago. I'm under seriously challenging house of home transits and that is definitely being reflected in my current situation. Years ago I had a reading with a Vedic astrologer named Nancy Channing who is not advertising online anymore. She warned me against the Western states and recommened Florida. I did not follow up on it and am now dealing with a location that does not really support me and having figured out her system I can definitely see what is wrong with the Salt Lake charts. They are just an all around downer. It's been hard to admit to myself that I should have never moved here. I think using astrology to pick a location makes good sense since relocating gets to be very time consuming and expensive not to mention traumatizing.
I've been attracted to astrology for most of my life. My interest continually waxes and wanes. Initially, an astrologer friend challenged me to dis-prove it. Of course, that required some serious study that went way beyond reading newspaper horoscopes. Through an in-depth study, I came to the conclusion that it actually had a great deal of validity.
That being said, I rarely look at my chart or consult with an astrologer. I schedule a consultation perhaps every 2 or 3 years, especially if I'm facing some significant challenges or planning a big step forward in my life. I take the information from the consultation into consideration when making decisions, along with many other factors. It has proven helpful from time to time, when no clear solution was apparent using more traditional means. The best use of astrology that I am aware of is for the purpose of relocation. I used relocation astrology to help me find a great new place to live. During the 1st 18 months in my new location, my experience has closely paralled the description of living here contained in the relocation report.
Astrology is not for everyone. To benefit from it requires a willingness to go beyond the negative cultural bias. It requires an open minded attitude, and a willingness to explore, read some books, and perhaps take some classes. Without doing so, a person has no basis for saying that astrology has validity or not. It's merely a repetiton of the ingrained cultural bias against astrology. Such opinions carry no weight, but everyone is welcome to express their opinion.
Location: Los Angeles, which as I understand was once upon a time ago part of the United States of America
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The planets are placed around the wheel according to where they are from the perspective of the natal Sun sign. The astrologer then interprets for that month where all the planets are highlighting which houses might dominate most. This is March, a month when many inner planets (Mercury, Venus, Sun, etc.) are in either Aquarius or Pisces. Therefore this month tends to be a big energy boost for both of those signs. If you are an Aquarius or Pisces you will have to put your hardheaded beliefs aside and admit that what I'm saying is true. You get more energy in the late winter and early spring, period.
May we see the scietific evidence to support your assertions?
Get your birth data and have a good reading with someone reputable like Joni, whose link I posted above. Read your horoscope for your Vedic Sun Sign for the last three months on her website and decide for yourself. I don't have time to argue the scientific basis with you. I've studied my own chart and those of friends and family members, and also famous people, for years. It is understandable that you are upset that I wrote such a cohesive post that echoes what others have written on this thread, that they think horoscopes and astrology in general are true. Moderator cut: edit
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Originally Posted by Prince of Lombards
May we see the scietific evidence to support your assertions?
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"Developed in India probably about 4000-6000 years ago, Vedic astrology is basically a forecasting and trend analysis tool. The most popular sage of ancient Vedic astrology, also called Jyotish, was Maharishi Parashara. Most Vedic astrologers, called Jyotishis, use his system today.
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May we see the scietific evidence to support your assertions?
May we see the scientific evidence to prove the assertions of science?
Some of us prefer to trust our personal experience more than science, while others are so hung up on science that they unwilling to experience anything that has not been validated by science. It's your life and you are welcome to limit your experience in any way that makes sense to you.
catrinac wrote:
I've studied astrology for fifteen years and it is definitely true. HOWEVER, I've found Eastern or Hindu astrology to be more accurate than Western.
Yeah, I studied vedic astrology for a few years too, because I read so much on the internet that it was more accurrate than western astrology. After a few years of vedic study I came back to tradiditonal western astrology, which is my preference today. I didn't find any greater accurracy with vedic. I just resonate more strongly with western astrology.
As stated in an earlier post, my interest in astrology waxes and wanes. I haven't been into it that much for the past year or two, but it's always on the back burner. I have never found anywhere close to 100% accurracy with western or vedic, but there's enough validity to it that my interest doesn't fade completely. I would never rely upon astrology as the sole factor in making an important decision, but I usually take into account what astrology has to say, and include it among other factors in making a decision. It provides insight that you just can't get form any other source that I'm aware of. Why not take advantage of it, even if it has no scientific basis! I have chosen not to be a slave of scientific evidence.
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