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Old 09-02-2013, 12:58 AM
 
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I don't think any of the current proposals are on anything but empty lots.
The point I'm making is that you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you have nothing but skyscrapers, then you won't have green space and the types of low rise development I posted. Houston does have some of that type of development, but it doesn't have near the potential that Dallas has concerning developing along streets that exist in vacuums. For example, the area along Ross Avenue between the Dallas Arts District downtown and Lower Greenville is really booming with development. The area along Gaston between downtown Dallas and Baylor Medical Center and then between Baylor Medical Center and Lakewood are also vacuums for developments. Lakewood never slowed during the recession. This vacuum also exists along Main Street from downtown Dallas, through Deep Ellum and then to Dallas Fair Park. Yet, all of this is just the east side of downtown.

The philosophy of what is density differs between Houston and Dallas. Houston is an anomaly the way its market must continue supplying its huge envery companes Having a lot of generic fifty story skyscrapers built for the giant oil companies in Houston

 
Old 09-02-2013, 01:01 AM
 
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You get a breathtaking view driving in from I-45 and seeing the Reunion Tower...
 
Old 09-02-2013, 01:02 AM
 
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How much does a skyline affect someone's quality of life?
How much does a skyline affect how much fun someone is able to have?
How much does a skyline affect how nice a city it?

Arguing skylines is pretty pointless, and you could not pick two cities that are more similar. The two largest metros in Texas separated by barely a few hundred miles. Houston and Dallas probably have more in common than any other two large metros in the rest of the country. Just let it go.
Actually, the two cities contrast. One is on the ocean, the other isn't. One has a seaport, the other has four major airports. One has always built lots of skyscrapers to support its oil businesses, the other builds lot of stores.

One is a well planned area, the other doesn't have zoning. One is flat, the other has hills.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Actually, the two cities contrast. One is on the ocean, the other isn't. One has a seaport, the other has four major airports. One has always built lots of skyscrapers to support its oil businesses, the other builds lot of stores.

One is a well planned area, the other doesn't have zoning. One is flat, the other has hills.
You're missing the point. Even Mississippi and Alabama have their differences, but by in large they are extremely similar states.

I dare you to find me two American cities that have more in common than Dallas and Houston do.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 08:25 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Originally Posted by ColdAilment View Post
How much does a skyline affect someone's quality of life?
How much does a skyline affect how much fun someone is able to have?
How much does a skyline affect how nice a city it?

Arguing skylines is pretty pointless, and you could not pick two cities that are more similar. The two largest metros in Texas separated by barely a few hundred miles. Houston and Dallas probably have more in common than any other two large metros in the rest of the country. Just let it go.
In the grand scheme of things, it is pointless.... But so are sports.

Yet, people love having discussions about them and getting into stats and who's the better team or player. So why not? Just because you personally don't care for discussions like this doesn't mean NO ONE should have them. It's just one small convo on an open forum that makes a boring life just a little less dull. (And don't stress that "boring life" part. Just sayin'...)

The only discussions I feel that should never happen involve getting into other people's personal lives. Especially celebrities. Now THOSE are needless.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 10:10 AM
 
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You're missing the point. Even Mississippi and Alabama have their differences, but by in large they are extremely similar states.

I dare you to find me two American cities that have more in common than Dallas and Houston do.
Uh no! You are exaggerating. (Fellow Alabamian here)
 
Old 09-02-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Downtown Houston is booming:

List of projects currently under construction or soon to be
(Made by downtownian on HAIF)
 
Old 09-02-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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Downtown Houston is booming:

List of projects currently under construction or soon to be
(Made by downtownian on HAIF)
Could you find out how many total hotel rooms are under construction? Thank you.

I'm surprised at how short the development list in downtown is actually. If this is true, it doesn't come close to matching the activity happening within the central core of Dallas. Of course, by central core, I mean the new developing downtown of Dallas which, as it stands presently, is still in a state of flux. I was reading an article that predicted in five years a total of 26,000 people living in the combined area of downtown Dallas and Uptown. This all depends on planned development actually getting built. Because of the size of the two markets, one can expect twice the numbers of hotels to be built in the inner core of Dallas than in the inner core of Houston.

Here is a list of why the central core of Dallas has so many hotels:

Southwestern Medical District
Dallas Market Center
Dallas Design District
Dallas Convention Center
Dallas Arts District
American Airlines Center
Largest collection of urban shopping centers (upscale) in the Southwest
The Dallas Fair Park and State Fair of Texas
New Terminal at Love Field along with lifting of flight regulations
60 million square feet of office space in the vicinity.


Downtown Houston should build more office buildings in square footage though.

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Old 09-02-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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You're missing the point. Even Mississippi and Alabama have their differences, but by in large they are extremely similar states.

I dare you to find me two American cities that have more in common than Dallas and Houston do.
Atlanta and Dallas have far more in common than do Houston and Dallas. Market centers. Design centers. International airports. Distribution centers. The golden retail corridor of Preston Road and Peachtree. Downtown skylines that snake along in a linear fashion. Massive convention centers. Large hotels.

Houston is a one industry town of greasy oil and gas, lots of engineering firms, along with the world's hugest medical center, as well as a ustabee Nasa that has shrunk down from real manned space flights to remote controlling 700 million dollar roving tonkas toys on Mars.

Man, that was just about the easiest dare I ever did.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Atlanta and Dallas have far more in common than do Houston and Dallas. Market centers. Design centers. International airports. Distribution centers. The golden retail corridor of Preston Road and Peachtree. Downtown skylines that snake along in a linear fashion. Massive convention centers. Large hotels.

Houston is a one industry town of greasy oil and gas, lots of engineering firms, along with the world's hugest medical center, as well as a ustabee Nasa that has shrunk down from real manned space flights to remote controlling 700 million dollar roving tonkas toys on Mars.

Man, that was just about the easiest dare I ever did.
They sure do.

They're the largest inland metros in the United States. Houston is a coastal city like its cosmopolitan peers.

Uptown Houston snakes along 610 in a linear fashion & is about the same size as Downtown Dallas & Downtown Atlanta. In fact, most 1st time visitors think Uptown Houston is its Downtown the buildings are so tall & the area is so large. Downtown Dallas' tallest building is the same size as Uptown Houston's.
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