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Old 03-06-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Dallas County - 2.3 million

Collin County - 782k

Ellin County - 150k

Kaufman County - 103k

Rockwall County - 78k

3,413,000
Close enough. You're also not counting the thousands of people who work in Dallas that live in Tarrant and Denton Counties. They would still be here, too. But close enough. Dallas would be just fine without Fort Worth, and Fort Worth without Dallas. I'm not sure what you've proven. No crutches here.

 
Old 03-06-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Dallas County - 2.3 million

Collin County - 782k

Ellis County - 150k

Kaufman County - 103k

Rockwall County - 78k

3,413,000

To be fair lets split Denton County down the middle - 331,307

3,413,000 + 331,307 = 3,744,307
Yes none of the suburbs in the mid-cities have anything to do with Dallas and if Ft Worth was never incorporated into a city all of those people would not still be there.

Who's to say that if FW didn't exist that the same number of people wouldn't live around Dallas? You know the area between Dallas and FW is called the mid-cities because the two big cities share suburbs to create one large metro area. The metroplex including the cities in Tarrant County, even FW are as large as they are and growing like they are because of Dallas. People in Houston can deny that all they want but it is true. If it wasn't for Dallas those areas around FW would not be what they are now. It is the economic engine of the Metroplex. Also, 90 percent of Denton County relates to Dallas. If you drive from FW to Denton there is no connectivity. Going from Denton to Dallas is continuous growth along 35E and commuter rail connecting to Dart. Denton Counties growth is directly tied to the growth of Dallas and the metroplex as a whole. I love how people try to act like this is not one large area. You would think Dallas was the size of Charlotte the way Houston people downsize it on here so much.
 
Old 03-06-2012, 05:26 PM
 
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Yes none of the suburbs in the mid-cities have anything to do with Dallas and if Ft Worth was never incorporated into a city all of those people would not still be there.

Who's to say that if FW didn't exist that the same number of people wouldn't live around Dallas? You know the area between Dallas and FW is called the mid-cities because the two big cities share suburbs to create one large metro area. The metroplex including the cities in Tarrant County, even FW are as large as they are and growing like they are because of Dallas. People in Houston can deny that all they want but it is true. If it wasn't for Dallas those areas around FW would not be what they are now. It is the economic engine of the Metroplex. Also, 90 percent of Denton County relates to Dallas. If you drive from FW to Denton there is no connectivity. Going from Denton to Dallas is continuous growth along 35E and commuter rail connecting to Dart. Denton Counties growth is directly tied to the growth of Dallas and the metroplex as a whole. I love how people try to act like this is not one large area. You would think Dallas was the size of Charlotte the way Houston people downsize it on here so much.
This could not be more correct. Undeniably, without Fort Worth Dallas would lose some stuff, but its just the way our metroplex happened to develop. But you CANNOT deny that Dallas is the economic and cultural powerhouse of the area. It is absolutely ridiculous how Houstonians make it seem like Fort Worth is the ONLY reason Dallas is what is is. Get a grip.
 
Old 03-06-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Yes none of the suburbs in the mid-cities have anything to do with Dallas and if Ft Worth was never incorporated into a city all of those people would not still be there.

Who's to say that if FW didn't exist that the same number of people wouldn't live around Dallas? You know the area between Dallas and FW is called the mid-cities because the two big cities share suburbs to create one large metro area. The metroplex including the cities in Tarrant County, even FW are as large as they are and growing like they are because of Dallas. People in Houston can deny that all they want but it is true. If it wasn't for Dallas those areas around FW would not be what they are now. It is the economic engine of the Metroplex. Also, 90 percent of Denton County relates to Dallas. If you drive from FW to Denton there is no connectivity. Going from Denton to Dallas is continuous growth along 35E and commuter rail connecting to Dart. Denton Counties growth is directly tied to the growth of Dallas and the metroplex as a whole. I love how people try to act like this is not one large area. You would think Dallas was the size of Charlotte the way Houston people downsize it on here so much.
This simply is not true. Fort Worth metro holds about the same percentage of jobs in the Metroplex as it does people. There is still emptiness on 35 from Denton to Dallas. Don't forget you have the Texas Motor Speedway and Alliance going from Fort Worth to Denton. Dallas is just the largest city in this Metroplex. There isnt really a cultural center here. It depends in what side you live on.
 
Old 03-06-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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Houston is most diverse city in the USA.
Houston region is now the most diverse in the U.S. - Houston Chronicle
 
Old 03-06-2012, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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If Dallas thinks thet Metroplex would be what it is today without Ft. Worth, that's what I call arrogance and serious denial.
 
Old 03-06-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Oh don't tell Dallas that...they swear they are.
 
Old 03-06-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Oh don't tell Dallas that...they swear they are.

Actually, Missouri City and Pearland are the most diverse cities in America. From the article:

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The report found that Pearland and Missouri City have surpassed Houston as the most diverse in the region.

The city of Houston remained more segregated than other areas of the metropolitan area

So, in summary, Houston is the most diverse city in the country.....













.....when it uses its suburbs as crutches.

Enjoy this warm dish of irony.
 
Old 03-06-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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If Dallas thinks thet Metroplex would be what it is today without Ft. Worth, that's what I call arrogance and serious denial.

I don't think anybody questions how important Fort Worth is to North Texas. That's a lot different than Houstonians' constant claims that Dallas would be Oklahoma City without Fort Worth, or that Fort Worth is now the economic, cultural, and population center of North Texas. THAT is unabashed arrogance and serious denial. Dallas would still be an economic powerhouse and U.S. top 10 in population without Fort Worth. If anything, the city of Dallas might be even more populated itself because less sprawl would have been encouraged without the tug-of-war between the two cities.
 
Old 03-06-2012, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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The Dallas Market Center is the world's largest wholesale merchandise resource. The 100 acre complex has more than 7 million sq ft of space.

Campus buildings

World Trade Center (over 3 million sq ft)
Trade Mart (1.5 million sq ft)
Market Hall (214,000 sq ft)
International Trade Plaza (440,000)


The World Trade Center (I think it's the ugliest building in Dallas)

dallas market center - Google Maps
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