Houston vs. Dallas (Fort Worth, Denton: how much, employment, centers)

[TexasTallest]

Originally Posted by R1070

This never gets old


Metro's Greatest Hits - YouTube

lmao, definitely not.. its always good for a few laughs. i just noticed though that all of these videos are from 2004 though, right after the rail opened, when many drivers were still not used to a new Houston with rail to deal with. took some stubborn Houstonians a while to give up the left turns on Main. accidents rarely happens anymore though. all but one of those videos were from around the TMC and midtown, where the rail interacts with the surface streets the most.

[R1070]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

lmao, definitely not.. its always good for a few laughs. i just noticed though that all of these videos are from 2004 though, right after the rail opened, when many drivers were still not used to a new Houston with rail to deal with. took some stubborn Houstonians a while to give up the left turns on Main. accidents rarely happens anymore though. all but one of those videos were from around the TMC and midtown, where the rail interacts with the surface streets the most.

oh this isn't good press

Destroyed In Seconds Houston Metro Rail - YouTube

This one from earlier this month could have been much worse.

[FULL & Version UNCUT!!] SUV Crashes With Train at Rail-Crossing in Houston - YouTube


Yikes! Looks like a cyclist was ran over too. very sad.

Houston METRORail Accident Cyclist Under Train July 22 - YouTube

[TexasTallest]

meh, any press is better than no press. back in 2004 it probably helped raise awareness around the country that Houston finally got a rail system. heh.

that guy recently was a complete idiot. how did he not see the train coming/why would he drive around lowered rail road crossing arms?

yeah the cyclist accident was very unfortunate. i didnt realize it had already almost been a year. she was apparently riding her bike down the middle of the rail line with headphones in. not sure if she was drunk or not.

[marcopolo2000]

Originally Posted by Trae713

Its easy to ignore the facts. Dallas rail may have the miles, but it is definitely underused. If the university and uptown lines were under construction, Houston rail would probably have more riders s.

If........

As it stands NOW dart is the far superior light rail system. houstonians, Please stop lying to your selves and searching for moral victories

[TexasTallest]

so the Dallasites admit pound for pound, nothing in DART rivals METROrail? the original DART starter lines (20 miles of track on the red and blue lines) didnt have as high of ridership as METROs original 8 mile line..

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by marcopolo2000

If........

As it stands NOW dart is the far superior light rail system. houstonians, Please stop lying to your selves and searching for moral victories

DART rail doesn't carry a lot of passengers per mile, mostly due to its far superior system trying to combine suburban commuters and urban commuters into single type of rail along a good deal of underutilized freight lines.

I give DART props for delivering such a large system (miles) but it needs to stop expanding rail and focus on improving service to existing lines via better connectivity to it's adjacent neighborhood through bus and better pedestrian infrastructure.

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by dv1033

DART rail doesn't carry a lot of passengers per mile, mostly due to its far superior system trying to combine suburban commuters and urban commuters into single type of rail along a good deal of underutilized freight lines.

I give DART props for delivering such a large system (miles) but it needs to stop expanding rail and focus on improving service to existing lines via better connectivity to it's adjacent neighborhood through bus and better pedestrian infrastructure.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.....So i guess your saying Houston's rail line does all that???

[RayStokes]

Originally Posted by TexasTallest

so the Dallasites admit pound for pound, nothing in DART rivals METROrail? the original DART starter lines (20 miles of track on the red and blue lines) didnt have as high of ridership as METROs original 8 mile line..

DART doesn't rival METRO rail because it surpasses it by too far to even be a competition. Who cares that more people mile for mile ride metro? This is an issue of car culture.


The bottom line is that in Dallas you can get access to the majority of the city and several suburbs on rail. You can get all the way to Fort Worth and Denton on rail. In a few short years, the greater part of the entire metroplex including DFW airport will be accessible to rail. I only use the train 5 times or less per year, but it's actually there for me when I need it, unlike in Houston. Regardless of how many people use it per mile of track, Dallas actually has the track and accessibility. Houston's rail is nonexistent outside of its core.

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by RayStokes

DART doesn't rival METRO rail because it surpasses it by too far to even be a competition. Who cares that more people mile for mile ride metro? This is an issue of car culture.


The bottom line is that in Dallas you can get access to the majority of the city and several suburbs on rail. You can get all the way to Fort Worth and Denton on rail. In a few short years, the greater part of the entire metroplex including DFW airport will be accessible to rail. I only use the train 5 times or less per year, but it's actually there for me when I need it, unlike in Houston. Regardless of how many people use it per mile of track, Dallas actually has the track and accessibility. Houston's rail is nonexistent outside of its core.

PERFECTLY put!!!!!!!!!

[TexasTallest]

We never said DART didn't have the more extensive system, were just saying dart does **** poor at doing it's job (moving large numbers of people around)