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Old 02-21-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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As mentioned earlier, baseball is huge in Japan, Korea, Singapore, and generally where the US entered in the Pacific and had a large cultural presence after WWII and the soldiers stationed in those countries brought baseball with them.

Football actually has a budding popularity in ... the middle east! So is rap, "black" culture, etc. I have a friend from the UAE who says that football is huge among his college buddies. Another friend of mine from Morocco said that while still small, football is catching on a bit (partially because people wanted to do something other than soccer, the current dominant sport in Morocco).

On the flip side, I know where I grew up in Chicago there were a lot of Irish and Polish folks, and they brought over rugby and formed the intra-chicago league of rugby. Locally to where I live now, I just saw a sign advertising the rugby team. I find it somewhat worrisome that high schoolers will play rugby, but so long as they protect their ears and wear cups it should be OK. Locally, lacrosse is huge, as is soccer (in fact there are more people going to Sounders games here than Mariners games!)
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:08 AM
 
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As mentioned earlier, baseball is huge in Japan, Korea, Singapore, and generally where the US entered in the Pacific and had a large cultural presence after WWII and the soldiers stationed in those countries brought baseball with them.

Football actually has a budding popularity in ... the middle east! So is rap, "black" culture, etc. I have a friend from the UAE who says that football is huge among his college buddies. Another friend of mine from Morocco said that while still small, football is catching on a bit (partially because people wanted to do something other than soccer, the current dominant sport in Morocco).

On the flip side, I know where I grew up in Chicago there were a lot of Irish and Polish folks, and they brought over rugby and formed the intra-chicago league of rugby. Locally to where I live now, I just saw a sign advertising the rugby team. I find it somewhat worrisome that high schoolers will play rugby, but so long as they protect their ears and wear cups it should be OK. Locally, lacrosse is huge, as is soccer (in fact there are more people going to Sounders games here than Mariners games!)
In case of injury I take it?
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:52 PM
 
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In case of injury I take it?
Basically. I'm sure if you go to a club with a bunch of rugby players and ex rugby players, you'll see more than one crushed / ripped off / damaged ear.

Make no bones about it, rugby is a rough sport! But ironically on the whole there's fewer injuries than in American football (er, hand-egg).
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:14 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Basically. I'm sure if you go to a club with a bunch of rugby players and ex rugby players, you'll see more than one crushed / ripped off / damaged ear.

Make no bones about it, rugby is a rough sport! But ironically on the whole there's fewer injuries than in American football (er, hand-egg).
...wierd.

(And the "hand-egg" thing is really tired)
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:01 AM
 
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Basically. I'm sure if you go to a club with a bunch of rugby players and ex rugby players, you'll see more than one crushed / ripped off / damaged ear.

Make no bones about it, rugby is a rough sport! But ironically on the whole there's fewer injuries than in American football (er, hand-egg).
How do you know that?
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Old 02-23-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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Basically. I'm sure if you go to a club with a bunch of rugby players and ex rugby players, you'll see more than one crushed / ripped off / damaged ear.

Make no bones about it, rugby is a rough sport! But ironically on the whole there's fewer injuries than in American football (er, hand-egg).
cauliflower ears!
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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How do you know that?
Take a look at the injury statistics for Irish league rugby versus American football. You see far fewer injuries in rugby than American football.

I have a theory about this. In American football, before the days of padding and stuff, we had only leather skin caps and some thick clothing, maybe shin guards. That forced people to hold back on the force that they use lest they get injured too, and forced them to devise strategem and tactics and physical training to ensure they don't get injured. Today's technology has given a false sense of power and invincibility that simply isn't real. We don't worry so much about dislocated shoulders now that we have shoulder pads. We don't worry so much about brain trauma now that we have plastic helmets (though we SHOULD worry about it). And we have drugs that pump up the bodies now.

So basically the sports like soccer and rugby have far fewer instances of injuries because the sportsmen are less drugged up and less having a sense of invincibility than people playing American football. That's not saying that injuries DON'T happen ... they certainly do! But on the whole it is safer playing rough with less padding because YOU have to hold back and judge the size of the guy you're going up against.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:23 PM
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Take a look at the injury statistics for Irish league rugby versus American football. You see far fewer injuries in rugby than American football.

I have a theory about this. In American football, before the days of padding and stuff, we had only leather skin caps and some thick clothing, maybe shin guards. That forced people to hold back on the force that they use lest they get injured too, and forced them to devise strategem and tactics and physical training to ensure they don't get injured. Today's technology has given a false sense of power and invincibility that simply isn't real. We don't worry so much about dislocated shoulders now that we have shoulder pads. We don't worry so much about brain trauma now that we have plastic helmets (though we SHOULD worry about it). And we have drugs that pump up the bodies now.

So basically the sports like soccer and rugby have far fewer instances of injuries because the sportsmen are less drugged up and less having a sense of invincibility than people playing American football. That's not saying that injuries DON'T happen ... they certainly do! But on the whole it is safer playing rough with less padding because YOU have to hold back and judge the size of the guy you're going up against.
Throw in the fact that football coaches preach "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" every season and there ya go...
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Old 02-23-2012, 10:24 PM
 
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Take a look at the injury statistics for Irish league rugby versus American football. You see far fewer injuries in rugby than American football.

I have a theory about this. In American football, before the days of padding and stuff, we had only leather skin caps and some thick clothing, maybe shin guards. That forced people to hold back on the force that they use lest they get injured too, and forced them to devise strategem and tactics and physical training to ensure they don't get injured. Today's technology has given a false sense of power and invincibility that simply isn't real. We don't worry so much about dislocated shoulders now that we have shoulder pads. We don't worry so much about brain trauma now that we have plastic helmets (though we SHOULD worry about it). And we have drugs that pump up the bodies now.

So basically the sports like soccer and rugby have far fewer instances of injuries because the sportsmen are less drugged up and less having a sense of invincibility than people playing American football. That's not saying that injuries DON'T happen ... they certainly do! But on the whole it is safer playing rough with less padding because YOU have to hold back and judge the size of the guy you're going up against.
Not sure.
I've been to rugby matches, and you can hear their bodies slamming against each other. They don't hold back.
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Take a look at the injury statistics for Irish league rugby versus American football. You see far fewer injuries in rugby than American football.

I have a theory about this. In American football, before the days of padding and stuff, we had only leather skin caps and some thick clothing, maybe shin guards. That forced people to hold back on the force that they use lest they get injured too, and forced them to devise strategem and tactics and physical training to ensure they don't get injured. Today's technology has given a false sense of power and invincibility that simply isn't real. We don't worry so much about dislocated shoulders now that we have shoulder pads. We don't worry so much about brain trauma now that we have plastic helmets (though we SHOULD worry about it). And we have drugs that pump up the bodies now.

So basically the sports like soccer and rugby have far fewer instances of injuries because the sportsmen are less drugged up and less having a sense of invincibility than people playing American football. That's not saying that injuries DON'T happen ... they certainly do! But on the whole it is safer playing rough with less padding because YOU have to hold back and judge the size of the guy you're going up against.
Well, there's also the fact that you didn't have 260-lb linebackers back then who could run a 4.6 40. Today's players are both bigger and faster and just all-around more athletic. That's a combination for increased injury even with more padding and more helmets and the like.
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