No more "San Diego" Chargers? (Oakland, Jackson: hotel, buy)

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by sav858

What are you even talking about? I don't think football fans or anyone really cares about crap like this except those obsessed with politics.

I wasn't getting the whole partisan Chargers connection either.

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by sav858

What are you even talking about? I don't think football fans or anyone really cares about crap like this except those obsessed with politics.

But the Politicians in the City of LA certainly will. They wouldn't be about to spend billions on a stadium to bring a partisan corporation to town which would upset the political balance there.

[Encinitan]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

I wasn't getting the whole partisan Chargers connection either.

It was definitely getting into the Tin Foil Hat-wearing crowd. Pretty out there.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Boompa

But the Politicians in the City of LA certainly will. They wouldn't be about to spend billions on a stadium to bring a partisan corporation to town which would upset the political balance there.

The Chargers aren't seen as a partisan corporation in the least, except to far left people obsessed with politics like yourself and those people have absolutely no sway in whether or not LA gets a football team. They are already looking to build a new stadium and will take any team to fill it. Again, the City of LA and it's football fanbase aren't obsessed with insignificant crap like that. You seem to understand very little about how sports franchises and cities work and the fact that you are even bringing politics into this discussion just exemplifies that.

[Oerdin]

Originally Posted by cruitr

Will there be a 2011 season for the NFL?
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I hope they do lose the season if for no other reason then because it would remove most of Spanos's leverage for demanding tax payer money.

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by sav858

The Chargers aren't seen as a partisan corporation in the least, except to far left people obsessed with politics like yourself and those people have absolutely no sway in whether or not LA gets a football team. They are already looking to build a new stadium and will take any team to fill it. Again, the City of LA and it's football fanbase aren't obsessed with insignificant crap like that. You seem to understand very little about how sports franchises and cities work and the fact that you are even bringing politics into this discussion just exemplifies that.

Yeah but inviting a multi-billion dollar company into town which contributes large amounts to your opposition? Remember the Chargers plow more money into npolitics than the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place teams combined. I think they would rather have the Raiders back.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Boompa

Yeah but inviting a multi-billion dollar company into town which contributes large amounts to your opposition? Remember the Chargers plow more money into npolitics than the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place teams combined. I think they would rather have the Raiders back.

Remember now, no one really cares about political donations of NFL franchises, especially to the point to refusing to accept a team to play in your city that will bring in millions of dollars of revenue. This is not a political issue at all and it's ridiculous you are trying to turn it into one.

[Oerdin]

I'm sure the chargers do make lots of local political donations but I doubt it has anything to do with a political agenda and more to do with old fashioned corruption. Spanos wants a billion dollar hand out so he's trying to bribe politicians... er, "donating to them"

Bribing politicians is really the best investment in the world. You spend a few tens of millions and in return you get a juicy no bid military contract or a massive subsidy. Why actually work when you can bride politicians and let political corruption make all the money for you?

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Oerdin

I'm sure the chargers do make lots of local political donations but I doubt it has anything to do with a political agenda and more to do with old fashioned corruption. Spanos wants a billion dollar hand out so he's trying to bribe politicians... er, "donating to them"

Bribing politicians is really the best investment in the world. You spend a few tens of millions and in return you get a juicy no bid military contract or a massive subsidy. Why actually work when you can bride politicians and let political corruption make all the money for you?

Bride? No truer Freudian than that. Excellent.

[BacktoBlue]

The Chargers fan base is here not LA, nor will it ever be in LA, the team would likely need rebadging to be any real draw, history be damned.

The decision to allow the Chargers to move to LA, will come from all the NFL owners and players. The Chargers will have to prove to the NFL that San Diego is not a good market for the NFL, and we should lose our team. The Chargers organization has never presented the public with ballot language.

After the LA deal with AEG is known next year, the City of San Diego could ask the NFL for the same agreement and terms as LA. Currently San Diego has to give the Chargers $500 million, or they will move to a privately financed stadium LA. LA taxpayers plans to spend zero dollars on a new stadium.

San Diego has room for big things. BIG things.
You build a stadium downtown and bam. Lots of business there year round.
You level the Q. Build freaking Disneyland there and bam. More revenue.
You gotta spend money to make money. No one wants to take that risk right now.

It's not right. LA has lost 3 teams, we have supported OUR chargers for decades, despite them winning nothing in their history, yet we come out and rock the blue and yellow all the time, this would be a crime to this city and would be a complete disgrace.

I really can't imagine this city without the Bolts. Sure we have the beach and I love my Padres, but sorry, I can't deal with this team moving away from San Diego AND to LA, the 'enemies' to the North, it would be a shame. I will gladly stand in front of government buildings or Chargers Park to protest

The Spanos clan may very well take their ball and go to LA, and there may not be much we here in SD can do about it. They've been beating us over the head for 8 years with this LA stadium stuff. We'll never know if they're really moving, or if they're just posturing for a better stadium deal until after the fact anyway. While this team is the SAN DIEGO chargers, they will continue to have my full fandom, including game tickets, merchandise, etc. But as soon any situation is presented where they are no longer the San Diego Chargers, I will boycott the NFL. I urge all SAN DIEGO chargers fans to take the same approach to the situation. Perhaps if the NFL bean counters realize that SD fandom will not become LA fandom, it will help our cause.

I and many other fans have gotten together via the Chargers message boards and are contacting every corporation in San Diego, Jack in The Box, Chicken of the Sea, Sony, Qualcomm etc to keep the Chargers here.