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Old 02-27-2010, 10:55 PM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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M2, the fact that no further action was taken leads me to believe that there were issues w/the complaints. Cops get "beefed" routinely in the course of their duties, even when their actions were exemplary. I've seen it firsthand with friends that not only had RECORDED proof that the allegations were false, but instances where it was blatantly obvious that things were made up. The departments have no choice but to accept and record the complaints - only the investigative reports will ever tell the "rest of the story" - and that is usually not reported in the press, because it doesn't make good news bites.
Don't get me wrong - if he's guilty, I would LOVE to be on the jury deciding his fate - but until all the FACTS are in, we need to reserve judgement. Let me give you just ONE scenario:

The complaintant has had previous issues w/the officer, and sees him in a location. The officer approaches, questions him and "runs him off", ruining his prospects of a profitable night of prostitution. The guy subsequently goes and files a complaint. Guess what? The GPS will show he was there (he was), the initial information will put them both in the same locale - and initial tests will show there was sexual contact by *someone*. Only DNA testing will serve as final judgement in the officers' involvement - and by then, he'll have suffered in both his personal and professional life - which is all the complaintant wants.
As I said - if he's guilty, I wanna be on the jury. If he's innocent, I want the accuser brought up on charges, and to sit on HIS jury.
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:11 PM
 
Location: SoCal-So Proud!
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I'm curious as to why the Chief of Police would make premature (my opinion) comments such as this:

“This is a slap in the face to every good police officer, every command officer, to the public and to the victim,” said Police Chief William McManus, who was visibly frustrated as he announced Nash's arrest Friday morning. “This is about as hard a slap in the face as you could possibly get.”

McManus said the incident wasn't reflective of the department's culture but was instead the result of a single officer's bad behavior.


..when we don't know the facts yet. Just seems odd. You would think that he'd at least be a little more cautious with his words.
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Old 02-27-2010, 11:24 PM
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I'm curious as to why the Chief of Police would make premature (my opinion) comments such as this:

“This is a slap in the face to every good police officer, every command officer, to the public and to the victim,” said Police Chief William McManus, who was visibly frustrated as he announced Nash's arrest Friday morning. “This is about as hard a slap in the face as you could possibly get.”

McManus said the incident wasn't reflective of the department's culture but was instead the result of a single officer's bad behavior.

..when we don't know the facts yet. Just seems odd. You would think that he'd at least be a little more cautious with his words.
In the eyes of our continuing headline grabbing chief of police,so much for being innocent until proven guilty. I think I will file a complaint against Chief McManus for his irresponsible, rude and insolent comments and behavior.....Mabe I can get some friends and family members to do the same....
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:27 AM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Yeah - I found that strange as well. Then again, I heard his old department was glad ta see him go!
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in San Antonio
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Time will tell. Truth will eventually come out. However, looking into his eyes gives me the willies. What was that thing...about the eyes...and the soul?

Hey RGJ, does the man ever smile? Just curious. I do know; that smiling in a photo is not a good idea under these circumstances. I've also...watched the news to see...lets give an example of...some one killing their whole family and hearing "wow, what a surprise" "they seemed like the picture perfect family. You just never know.

I remember a police officer that I looked up to as a child...crossing guard most of my little young life; my idea of "the picture perfect policeman" and come to find out he was convicted as a child molester. You just never know.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:52 AM
 
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Just an observation: In the thread talking about the daycare center calling the police on a disruptive child, most people were ready to lock her up and throw away the key with no due justice, but here everyone seems to be willing to give this cop the benefit of the doubt. Where does the line get drawn I wonder.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:10 AM
 
Location: SoCal-So Proud!
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Just an observation: In the thread talking about the daycare center calling the police on a disruptive child, most people were ready to lock her up and throw away the key with no due justice, but here everyone seems to be willing to give this cop the benefit of the doubt. Where does the line get drawn I wonder.
I didn't follow the daycare thread but for me, at the moment it boils down to the word of a known prostitute (which is akin to NIL in my book) vs. the word of veteran police officer.

That is, until more details come out.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:56 AM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Just an observation: In the thread talking about the daycare center calling the police on a disruptive child, most people were ready to lock her up and throw away the key with no due justice, but here everyone seems to be willing to give this cop the benefit of the doubt. Where does the line get drawn I wonder.
I think if you'll go back and look, you won't see my face in the lynch mob. Way too many variables, and frankly way too much emotion. I was concerned that saying anything would brand me as some kind of apologist "monster" for taking up for a teacher.
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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Just an observation: In the thread talking about the daycare center calling the police on a disruptive child, most people were ready to lock her up and throw away the key with no due justice, but here everyone seems to be willing to give this cop the benefit of the doubt. Where does the line get drawn I wonder.
Where's that thread?

And really, is that like "apples to apples"? I would like to read the thread but I don't see the comparison from what you've written here.
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Old 02-28-2010, 02:51 PM
 
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I think if you'll go back and look, you won't see my face in the lynch mob. Way too many variables, and frankly way too much emotion. I was concerned that saying anything would brand me as some kind of apologist "monster" for taking up for a teacher.
You're right, "everyone" wasn't the right word.
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