Graffiti Problem (San Pedro: schools, cost of, law)

[Dube665]

Originally Posted by yosoyway

So let me try to understand what you wrote.

Since what these kids are doing is something cool to them and they consider art, we need to accomodate their needs. We (residents) need to accept that this is art and learn to appreciate it. Of course it doesn't matter that it's done on private property. These poor souls need to express their artistic side on any property they can find. I am so happy so see that rap videos are teaching great values.

I think you are right. You know, I am an avid practitioner of Santeria. I really enjoy killing chickens, hanging their feet while the blood is still dripping and then pour different items into a hot couldren. Then I write sayings on the walls in blood or b/m. (Mierda) And I think this is an art that I need to express it to everyone.

How about I go to your house and do it there? You won't mind since you are saying that we need to allow taggers/graffiti artists to display their art anywhere.

I understand that these kids want to express their artistic side but they shouldn't do it on private or public property. Imagine if everyone did the same thing. Todo seria un desmadre. And some of this crap is not art. I took art in middle school and high school and that's where I did my art. I didn't tag walls, light poles, bridge walls, etc.

Just because a few persons have a certain belief, it doesn't mean they need to shove it down other person's throats.

You people do understand that tagging is amout fame, right? When I say fame I dont mean Famous, although there are a few famous taggers, i.e. "Chaka" but fame amongst other taggers. Its all about who can get their name up the most.

I dont even pay attention to stupid little tags. They are annoying, they deface property and it is nothing but vandelism but when I see a tag on a freeway or way up on a building Im like, damn, how did they get way up there.

Real fame will come when some one falls off a highway signs and has an 18 wheeler run over them or they fall off a 15 story building. Thats fame!

[Jbhrnandez]

Well First Of all if we had a lot of legal walls here in san Antonio we wouldn't have this problem. from experience us the minors would apreeciate the chance to express are selfs legally, dont make this issue a missunderstanding to everyone and dont make this stupidity of what these other people say get to you. i know they wanna be big shot on the forums about how ''oh they should make their parents pay or cut their fingers off''. No matter what graffiti is art and a self expression and i dont know if anyone already knows that but its the truth and some of yall need to get this through your thick skulls. just make one exception and go for the legal walls their isnt really any harm just opening up blank walls for artists well thanks for reading

[Jbhrnandez]

Well First Of all if we had a lot of legal walls here in san Antonio we wouldn't have this problem. from experience us the minors would apreeciate the chance to express are selfs legally, dont make this issue a missunderstanding to everyone and dont make this stupidity of what these other people say get to you. i know they wanna be big shot on the forums about how ''oh they should make their parents pay or cut their fingers off''. No matter what graffiti is art and a self expression and i dont know if anyone already knows that but its the truth and some of yall need to get this through your thick skulls. just make one exception and go for the legal walls their isnt really any harm just opening up blank walls for artists well thanks for reading

[comanchewarrior]

Haa Maruaweka!

Why does the SA city council want to punish the victims of Graffiti?

Why don't these "Obamas" go after the criminal not the taxpayer?

Ura,Lawrence

[Primo]

I don't understand why they don't ban spraypaint sales within the county? They do it for fireworks. NYC banned transfat. Or why don't they charge $5 tax per can like they do at gentlemens clubs?

I actually use spaypaint once every few years to paint my outdoor furniture, but I would be willing to go without it, if I didn't have to see graffiti everyday (or see less of it)

[smitty12]

Originally Posted by Jbhrnandez

Well First Of all if we had a lot of legal walls here in san Antonio we wouldn't have this problem. from experience us the minors would apreeciate the chance to express are selfs legally, dont make this issue a missunderstanding to everyone and dont make this stupidity of what these other people say get to you. i know they wanna be big shot on the forums about how ''oh they should make their parents pay or cut their fingers off''. No matter what graffiti is art and a self expression and i dont know if anyone already knows that but its the truth and some of yall need to get this through your thick skulls. just make one exception and go for the legal walls their isnt really any harm just opening up blank walls for artists well thanks for reading

I don't think there is anything to stop you from buying property around town and putting up walls for this purpose, or better yet starting a non-profit getting donations and doing the same thing. This should not be a taxpayer funded thing....

Corey

[CreekKnoll]

I don't give a ***** what anybody says. "Tagging" is an eye sore. It's a sign of disrespect to the hard working people of that community. And I'd beat the ***** out of anyone I caught "tagging" in my neighborhood. Nuff said...

[yosoyway]

Originally Posted by Jbhrnandez

Well First Of all if we had a lot of legal walls here in san Antonio we wouldn't have this problem. from experience us the minors would apreeciate the chance to express are selfs legally, dont make this issue a missunderstanding to everyone and dont make this stupidity of what these other people say get to you. i know they wanna be big shot on the forums about how ''oh they should make their parents pay or cut their fingers off''. No matter what graffiti is art and a self expression and i dont know if anyone already knows that but its the truth and some of yall need to get this through your thick skulls. just make one exception and go for the legal walls their isnt really any harm just opening up blank walls for artists well thanks for reading

Why don't you set up your residence as an example of what you are suggesting?

It may be art to you but it will not be art to everyone. Why should everyone be subjected to your kind of art?

And I have seen nice graffiti but I think what everyone dislikes is the tagging.

Drive down Culebra, Old HWY 90 or commerce as you drive out of downtown and you will see all of this tagging that makes the area look so horrendous.

I just wish residents would paint over this tagging as soon as they saw it.

I think I'm gonna buy a power sprayer and some paint and start to clean up this crap. Since the city doesn't do anything about it.

But makes sure you give your address so we can direct all these taggers to your house jbhrnandez.

[mojokitty]

Here's just a thought on this. I agree, I hate driving around town and seeing really horrible graffiti on businesses. I must say, I am not sure why people want to do this and I haven't researched the history of tagging. Anyways, if it is truely "an art form" and I agree, art is subjective, then why not try to give the artists a place to "perform". I was thinking, would it be dumb if SA invested in some sort of graffiti studio/gallery or park of some kind? That way, people could go and express themselves without defacing everywhere. Other people could go to this designated spot and view the art and maybe see how it is done, watch an artist at work if you will. Maybe this would encourage this type of behavior on other venues, but at least it might give the "taggers" somewhere other than the side of a building. Just a thought!

[SanAntoQT]

Originally Posted by mojokitty

Here's just a thought on this. I agree, I hate driving around town and seeing really horrible graffiti on businesses. I must say, I am not sure why people want to do this and I haven't researched the history of tagging. Anyways, if it is truely "an art form" and I agree, art is subjective, then why not try to give the artists a place to "perform". I was thinking, would it be dumb if SA invested in some sort of graffiti studio/gallery or park of some kind? That way, people could go and express themselves without defacing everywhere. Other people could go to this designated spot and view the art and maybe see how it is done, watch an artist at work if you will. Maybe this would encourage this type of behavior on other venues, but at least it might give the "taggers" somewhere other than the side of a building. Just a thought!

I don't think this would work because by their very nature "taggers" are rebellious. What's rebellious about going to a particular location to "tag"? People have graffiti artists and "taggers" confused. A graffiti artist, I'm sure, would welcome a location to where he/she could go and display their art. Taggers couldn't give two Moderator cut: edited about where they put up their garbage!