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Old 08-24-2021, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Rhode Island
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Someone must tell you that not only had slavery been going on for years prior to its inception in the Colonies, but we were the first Nation to codify it's rejection.


Your perspective is greatly distorted.
"Distorted" is a kind appraisal in terms of perspective- his "perspective" on the facts is just plain wrong.

Although I must add we were far from the first to reject slavery. We did pass an act in 1652 which was ignored and also some later acts but RI continued its slave trade into the 19th C.

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Old 08-24-2021, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Someone must tell you that not only had slavery been going on for years prior to its inception in the Colonies, but we were the first Nation to codify it's rejection.


Your perspective is greatly distorted.
Hmm...What do you think the odds are that I don't know more about slavery than you? Give pause and consider I've probably read and watched a great deal about slavery in general over time. The article on Antonio a Negro (Anthony Johnson) is one of probably hundreds Ive researched or written about on this topic. If you want to argue Ive got no problems with that.

I start here- we weren't the first nation to codify its rejection. If I had to pick Id give it to Britain, I think they technically banned slavery in the late 16th century, ~1580. But in practice it was sort of permitted until 1780/90). Haiti (the world's first black republic) codified its rejection in 1801.

"slavery had been going on ( yea I know...where? in what fashion?) for years (how many? who was perpetrating it?) prior to its inception (when is that exactly? Does indentured servitude count?) in the colonies (which colonies?)"

^whats the relevance of this comment anyway?

Hollytree is just wrong, really.

The fact of the matter is when this nation started in the 17th century it was not intended to be whites only. Only either to be free from religious persecution (New England) or to make money (the Middle Atlantic, and later the South). American colonists knew they needed Native knowledge and African crops and labor in order to make it in the New World.

Initially, everyone worked their way out of indentured servitude and it wasn't generational...with the more drastic changes to local laws occurring in the 1660s and 1670s. But from nearly the beginning black were often given longer terms of serving, and were hassled in public courts. This legal bullying led to the law changes we saw in the 1660s. That was developed later, to justify the entrenchment of slavery as well as westward expansion. And then later strengthened by 19th and early 20th-century scientific racism and eugenics.

This is all good proof of why RI needs black history in its public schools.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:06 AM
 
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Not really. people coming from other countries have no real understanding of that. Someone coming from Haiti doesn't have any idea what racism feels like because their country is 99.8% black. Talk to a Haitian who been here for a while 15+ years-racism will come up. Its something they have very very scant information on (if any) prior to arriving and then they have no context for it either. They're just trying to survive and get acclimated for the first decade at least, domestic Black Americans are trying to do more than that.

Or people will simply take the racism so long as it means they can avoid domestic chaos and violence in their home country.

Nice try though.
At number one, The United States of America accepts more immigrants than numbers 2,3,4,5, and 6 combined. Now would be an excellent time to start your world tour warning these poor souls of the misery that awaits them. Strangely, the message doesn't seem to be getting out.
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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At number one, The United States of America accepts more immigrants than numbers 2,3,4,5, and 6 combined. Now would be an excellent time to start your world tour warning these poor souls of the misery that awaits them. Strangely, the message doesn't seem to be getting out.
And this is a trend that's been continuing for generations. Is anyone actually simple enough to believe that word wouldn't have filtered back to the mother countries about our unsuitability for subsequent emigration? The revolving door at our border also opens out, for any grousing malcontents here that have any better ideas. And if anybody finds a country without hatred, bigotry and discrimination, please send for me at once. But please remember to note which planet you're writing from.

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Old 08-26-2021, 08:03 AM
 
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And this is a trend that's been continuing for generations. Is anyone actually simple enough to believe that word wouldn't have filtered back to the mother countries about our unsuitability for subsequent emigration? The revolving door at our border also opens out, for any grousing malcontents here that have any better ideas. And if anybody finds a country without hatred, bigotry and discrimination, please send for me at once. But please remember to note which planet you're writing from.

Planet Wokeistan, located in the PC Galaxy.
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Old 08-26-2021, 12:02 PM
 
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Planet Wokeistan, located in the PC Galaxy.
Better than Planet Proud Boyistan, located in Galaxy Fascist.
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