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Old 05-14-2020, 04:02 PM
 
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You know Job tried that. :O)


These topics are always such fun. I am a Christian. I don't beat people over the head with my beliefs, but I am there to share if they ask. We are to be good neighbors first. I believe I had a personal encounter with the God through His Word.


The world is evil, not God. God didn't start it being evil, man turned it so. Man cursed creation with his own actions, not God's. Our beliefs do seem unbelievable to many, as yours do to us. But despite our differences, I do believe there is always opportunity to work together and make the world a better place for those around us.


cd :O)
As one great fisherman said ...

The most important thing god created in the garden .... was the snake.
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Old 05-14-2020, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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But we're not allowed to talk politics in the religion sub-forum.
I wasn't talking actual political issues. I was illustrating a point that almost all adults push their morals onto other people and often without realizing it....that this happens outside of religion as well....which fits in to the topic at hand.


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Even severe anxiety does not mean you have a "defective brain".
Well... Maybe, but my anxiety can paralyze me at times. Little noises can irritate me as my brain too easily loses my train of thoughts. It is nice for you to say I am not dumb though...I really am not that smart, I am not a great speller (spellcheck is a godsend! ) and I am not great at math.


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You need to have more confidence in yourself.
It doesn't help that in the politics forum I am constantly told that I am "naïve" and my atheist father while drunk told me that I have "$#1+ for brains," because I believe that I can feel Jesus sometimes while doing expectant waiting. Speaking of pushing morals on people... Oh well...


Have a good day and thank you for the conversation!
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:49 PM
 
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Keeping in mind the word "balance". cherry picking is one of the best tools we have.

When people tell me "You are cherry picking". I am like "Yes I am. Look at what I put in this pile and look what I put in that pile. Was the method reliable and are the piles rational?"
Hmm...kind of like, separating the 'wheat' from the 'chaff'?
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Old 05-14-2020, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Hmm...kind of like, separating the 'wheat' from the 'chaff'?
Uh-huh.

The Christian who can do that with the bible can get along with anybody, anywhere.

The Christian who can't is a fundie and will die out within a couple of generations.

That which does not evolve, becomes extinct.
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Old 05-14-2020, 09:36 PM
 
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Uh-huh.

The Christian who can do that with the bible can get along with anybody, anywhere.

The Christian who can't is a fundie and will die out within a couple of generations.

That which does not evolve, becomes extinct.
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Old 05-14-2020, 10:29 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Hmm...kind of like, separating the 'wheat' from the 'chaff'?
The preferred analogy by atheists is selecting from a cafeteria display.

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Uh-huh.

The Christian who can do that with the bible can get along with anybody, anywhere.

The Christian who can't is a fundie and will die out within a couple of generations.

That which does not evolve, becomes extinct.
There's that; the cafeteria Christian will be easier to get along with.
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Old 05-15-2020, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Well... Maybe, but my anxiety can paralyze me at times. Little noises can irritate me as my brain too easily loses my train of thoughts. It is nice for you to say I am not dumb though...I really am not that smart, I am not a great speller (spellcheck is a godsend! ) and I am not great at math.
Reading your posts I am quite sure there is nothing wrong with your intellect. Your anxiety is a concern though. And I totally rely on spell checker! And not being great at math means nothing. Many smart people in the world suck at math.

And by the way, I know all about "... my anxiety can paralyze me at times. Little noises can irritate me as my brain too easily loses my train of thoughts".
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Old 05-15-2020, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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If you are a christian and you peddle your christianity to others, then you damned well better be cleaner than the driven snow.

...Friendly question on what is peddling Christianity....


So about 5 and a half years ago my mom died, my dad became a dumpster fire, and I am the oldest with 1 sibling.

My dad had other "priorities" so I was responsible for putting my brother to bed pretty much every night...even if he was home.

Making my brother brush his teeth, making him wash up, making him tidy up his corner of the room, and also reassuring him as we ended up moving in a manner that wasn't great.

I would make him listen to me read a children's Bible every night for several years before I would move on to another book of his choice or other thing at bedtime (he would often ask about math, which taught me to think about how I explained things)...until he finally started putting himself to bed around junior high age. He would often resist the Bible stories as he wanted to get right into his choice time. Eventually, he started to like it.


Am I a bad person for not being driven as the white snow, but yet still once upon a time peddled religion to my brother that was struggling at the time as I was too? Why must I be perfect in order to use Jesus to comfort myself and my brother during difficult times - when nobody is perfect? Jesus pulled me through an extremely difficult time and made me have many positives today.


Today, my brother says he isn't very religious, but he is religious, and he found those times valuable and he even recently told me that he will keep that children's Bible forever and that he actually read some from it recently as comfort during the Coronavirus shutdowns to help ease his mind.


Did I do something that bad in your mind by peddling religion to him?


P.S. I am a pacifist so when I used the phrase "make him listen" up above, consider the context as in we will do this or we won't do that.



Just genuinely curious if the above upsets you...no worries.


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Reading your posts I am quite sure there is nothing wrong with your intellect. Your anxiety is a concern though. And I totally rely on spell checker! And not being great at math means nothing. Many smart people in the world suck at math.

And by the way, I know all about "... my anxiety can paralyze me at times. Little noises can irritate me as my brain too easily loses my train of thoughts".
Thanks 303 Guy, you are too kind. I guess I am probably okay at math....just my brother is really really good at it and since I kind of raised him a little bit it stinks to get passed by intellectually so quickly when I use to teach him things and now he is clearly superior. I compare myself a lot to my brother and bf and fall short mentally....and height wise too!

Sorry about your anxiety issues. Here is a thread I made about helping with anxiety using natural ways!

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Old 05-15-2020, 04:41 AM
 
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I’d have anxiety issues too if I were lied to all my life that there is a place I could go to after I die where I will be tortured for ever and ever and ever.
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Old 05-15-2020, 05:23 AM
 
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Hmm...kind of like, separating the 'wheat' from the 'chaff'?
exactly like.
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