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How pathetic is it when we applaud an adult with acknowledging well-established scientific facts? It goes to show that a large portion of Christianity has sunk to the level of such pathetic blissful ignorance and stupidity that we are shocked to see them even make one tiny leap forward into the nineteenth century. This is basically equivalent to Jenny McCarthy merely saying "Maybe not all vaccines are bad" or the Catholic Church admitting that condoms do prevent venereal diseases.
How pathetic is it when we applaud an adult with acknowledging well-established scientific facts? It goes to show that a large portion of Christianity has sunk to the level of such pathetic blissful ignorance and stupidity that we are shocked to see them even make one tiny leap forward into the nineteenth century. This is basically equivalent to Jenny McCarthy merely saying "Maybe not all vaccines are bad" or the Catholic Church admitting that condoms do prevent venereal diseases.
This is a great observation and shows how dismal some things remain in this country.
Pat Robertson has become increasingly irrelevant in recent years. He certainly doesn't speak for me.
So.. He's suddenly irrelevant when he spurns the ancient Christian myths and accepts the relevant and overwhelming science, huh? I get it. Predictable & typical.
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Creationism and adaptation or evolution is the same thing- God does not deal in time- He is eternal- six days could be six seconds or six trillion years...even an idiot can look at a fossil that is found where there once was an inland sea and is now desert- understands that the fossil is not confined to a 6000 year time frame.
Creationists and evolutionists may as well stop arguing....they are both correct. Except in one respect. Evolution is in part theoretical and speculation. Science is not carved in stone. It like all learning goes on forever. What is fact today is not fact tomorrow.
This is a predictable cop-out. When confronted with the inarguable facts, Creationists had to come up with a variant in time, a convenient bit of fluffy nonsense where God needed extra time to do His work, despite that He's an omnipotent entity, capable fo forming an entire universe in an instant, but needing a few million years to "do" us.
But then, oddly, He reverted it all back to normal time, though He hasn't bothered to ever show himself to anyone since.
And what was the idea of inventing Dinosaurs, ancient plants and insects and ocean-living simple life-form trilobites etc., but then purposefully letting 99+ % of them all go extinct while in His watch! Wow! Impressively logical guy!
Or.... uhmmm.... we obviously all evolved, as DNA lineage tracking has clearly shown. We have similar DNA to the dinos and lizards and house flies and... and.... Why, you ask? Because, dear reader, we all evolved from a common ancestor.
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Zealotry or institutionalized thinking was not approved of by Jesus. He expected people to use their God given minds to the full. If something does not makes sense then it is not true...
Uhmmm... so why do you fight the proven (oh and sensible , btw...) idea of adaptive genetic radiation and reproduction?
The only thing that bothers me is the title of this thread - creationism is not dead...it is just being brought into the light- religion has darkened the idea...
Religion is an institution much like science. Once they figure out they have all the answers they stick to their guns...In the mean time reality advances leaving the pigeon holing smug masters behind in the past. Institutionalization causes a static atmosphere...Learning is eternal.
Huh? Pigeon-holing smug masters? You mean you and your religious friends I'm assuming...
The SM provides an ever-advancing, never-static knowledge base that scientific researchers always challenge, to improve and to question. No smugness at all.
It not infrequently happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, about the nature of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such things, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he [the non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. In view of this and in keeping it in mind constantly while dealing with the book of Genesis, I have, insofar as I was able, explained in detail and set forth for consideration the meanings of obscure passages, taking care not to affirm rashly some one meaning to the prejudice of another and perhaps better explanation.
The Literal Interpretation of Genesis 1:19–20, Chapt. 19 [AD 408]
He pretty much nailed how ridiculous Creationism is, and that was 1600 years ago.
So.. He's suddenly irrelevant when he spurns the ancient Christian myths and accepts the relevant and overwhelming science, huh? I get it. Predictable & typical.
This is a predictable cop-out. When confronted with the inarguable facts, Creationists had to come up with a variant in time, a convenient bit of fluffy nonsense where God needed extra time to do His work, despite that He's an omnipotent entity, capable fo forming an entire universe in an instant, but needing a few million years to "do" us.
But then, oddly, He reverted it all back to normal time, though He hasn't bothered to ever show himself to anyone since.
And what was the idea of inventing Dinosaurs, ancient plants and insects and ocean-living simple life-form trilobites etc., but then purposefully letting 99+ % of them all go extinct while in His watch! Wow! Impressively logical guy!
The bizarre contortions made by creationists out of necessity reveals a god myth concept that is lopsided flywheel almost beyond comprehension. I'm really tempted to get saved and baptized again just to meet this BIG GUY, who with every dumbfounding utterance of his followers, becomes a more outrageous BARREL OF LAUGHS.
Creationists are forced to create tangled, moibus strips of lies to SELL THEMSELVES on their craziness, while meanwhile, BACK AT THE RANCH, the dinosaurs, the extinctions and everything else we have observed by means of EVIDENCE, fits right in with what is predicted by evolutionary theory.
These loons have to be on the brink of insanity, I guess that good ole Pat Robertson just reached a breaking point and had to vomit up some of the lies he has been ingesting.
The reason the Fundamentalist/Evangelical is so hell-bent to hang onto the creation myth is because they have been told they are special. They believe they are set apart and cared for by a loving god who thinks about them all the time. They say that evolution is an affront to god and that's why they get all upset about it. The reality is that if evolution is the vehicle, this makes them just another part of nature co-equal with the rest of it. This they cannot tolerate and is the real reason it upsets them. It must suck for a person who thinks they are special to find out that they really aren't.
It's amazing that one of this biggest wack-jobs of Evangelical Christianity figured it out. Telling that he is being turned on by the faithful.
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Yep. Not only do they think it, some of them go on to become "scientists" and congressmen! This man represents you. Let that sink in.
Unreal. That someone that stupid could get elected to congress is frightening.
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