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Well right now we are talking about ONE thing. And that is if being gay is against the bible. It is... it is also against nature....and you say its not hurting anybody? Puleeze! Its killing a lot of gay men that have the AIDS virus....its hurting our kids to think that 2 men together or 2 women together married, having children is okay...all that fake mess to substitute for what is real. I think it is all sexual.
If your main focus is STDs, they are only hurting themselves... nobody gets "accidentally" infected, so once again, they aren't hurting anyone. Not to mention, AIDS and other diseases are just as big a problem among the straight community - especially when you factor in lesbians, who have virtually no rate of infection. And fyi, there is such a thing as a gay/chaste virgin, so how do you feel about them?
If you (or anyone else) can give me a good reason that's EXCLUSIVE to the gay community, I'll bow out of this debate... until then, your points are irrelevant to the subject.
Why are you trying to justify gayness? Your points are irrelevant. The question is is it against the bible. But you know what? To each its own.....I just dont want this plague to affect my family. So as long as my generation doesnt get involved in the evil deed...so be it.
Why are you trying to justify gayness? Your points are irrelevant. The question is is it against the bible. But you know what? To each its own.....I just dont want this plague to affect my family. So as long as my generation doesnt get involved in the evil deed...so be it.
I'm not trying to justify homosexuality, I am only justifying equal rights, respect, and a lack of bigotry.
Also, I'm curious about something Nathan... what would you do if your child was/is gay? I have plenty of gay friends who came from Christian upbringings, so you can't tell me it's an impossible or irrelevant question!
Also, I'm curious about something Nathan... what would you do if your child was/is gay? I have plenty of gay friends who came from Christian upbringings, so you can't tell me it's an impossible or irrelevant question!
Good question, would Nathan be repulsed by his offspring?
It cracks me up that all I see is Roman colon number blah blah, Genenis colon number blah blah. Do you people have your own opinion? why is it that every time something is discussed, all religious people do is quote a book or someone else? I am sure you have a brain, make it work and generate your own opinions.
good for them
its not my opinion and it is a fact ask any priest reverend or clergy member and they will tell you homosexuality is against gods plan
oh yeah, like I am going to believe what a priest has to say. Like all those boys attending church were not sexually abused either by those priests. What would god think of those holy fathers?!
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How amusing. This subject is still being debated. Good ole' religion forums - nothing if not consistent in their endless (and futile) debates about subjects that never get resolved.
Interpretation, people. It's all about interpretation. And everyone seems to have their own.
How amusing. This subject is still being debated. Good ole' religion forums - nothing if not consistent in their endless (and futile) debates about subjects that never get resolved.
Interpretation, people. It's all about interpretation. And everyone seems to have their own.
The debate never ends. On a positive note, welcome back, I missed you!
The bible is silent on some issues and because it's silent doesn't give anyone a free pass on sinning. For example, masturbation isn't mentioned as sinful, nor is smoking, nor is gay marriage mentioned as something that God would condemn. The point that I have been trying to make in regard to gay marriage is simple and that is there is no where in Scripture that supports or even hints at gay marriage being acceptable to God. Every example of marriage in the bible has been between a man and woman. The bible is completly silent on gay marriage, therefore one can resonably conclude that if ALL of the examples refer to marriage being between a man and a woman in the bible, then God's silence on gay marriage doesn't justify it happening and nor should we assume that it isn't condemable by God.
Those are the examples clearly set, and when the bible discusses sexual immorality, it does so in the context of a man or woman committing fornication and adultery. The question is why isn't gay marriage discussed? Maybe it was answered in an earlier post when someone said that it went against what was natural.
What's interesting is how some in a previous post explained away Romans 1:18-27 where Paul clearly showed us that once anyone turns away from God, that person in turn becomes vile, debased, or reprobated. Paul made it quite clear that women turned to women and men turned to each other, and no matter what the original greek word implied or not for unnatural, anyone reading those verses would interpret them to mean that sinful people who turn their backs against God will began doing and believing that the sins they are committing are right or natural.
Another way of looking at it, if any person wants to believe that a sin that he is committing is justified or not condemable by God, then God will turn him over to a vile mind and allowing him to burn so deep in his passion and sins that once he enters the gates of hell, it will be a fitting resting place for him to continue in his burning passions and sins for eternity.
As far as two consenting gay adults wanting to get married and the voters not approving of them to get married, I really didn't know that christians are the majority voters. There are about 6 million Jehovah's witnesses that don't vote for religious reasons, and just because many people say that they are christian doesn't mean that they are true christians. Until the USA becomes more secularized, and people stop using the bible as their basis for denying gay people their fundamental right to get married, then the majority will keep striking it down, no matter how outdated or old fashioned some may see it. These people are just doing what they think is right in God's eyes.
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When the Bible is Silent on Topics
