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I'm a proponent of gender differences between the 2 sexes which is in part why I regard active homosexuality as wrong, and effeminate male mannerisms in those gay males that are effeminate as wrong in so far as adding fuel to the fire. I also regard transsexual changes as wrong too. Albeit, I accept all these people but I regard it as wrong nonetheless.
Championing homosexuality and transsexual changes among individuals clearly born members of the sex they neither identify with in body or gender, whilst claiming some "innate" difference in men and women that exceeds the anatomical and physiological differences is just "retarded" so-to-speak.
This is all borne of a confused society.
True, a lot of gender conceptions are socially constructed things. Like the men know how to fix cars thing, or the women don't box or bench press thing.
In a more orderly society people either keep to gender rules or do away with gender rules altogether. What an orderly society does not do is have increasingly contradictory gender rules: e.g., women can't fight men therefore put women in the military infantry so they can fight men. That's a contradiction--irrespective of it being the popular liberal Hollywood conception of what a "good guy" should think and parrot circa 2013.
There are a ton of threads arguing everything about age, gender, race and other topics. You have chosen to be argumentative instead of looking at some differences. He was trying to do one upbeat thread and you chose to redundantly inject the downbeat.
Believe you me - He knows I'd be on his hiney if he was gender bashing. I used to manage 17 truck drives in a skirt suit and heels and was also well respected and if someone complimented my looks I didn't go nuts over it. So, I know both sides of the coin. I appreciate my strength emotionally and my femininity. I simply don't find it necessary to go to extremes and whip my rope at every turn.
I really have no idea why I am being singled out here. Let's recap: This is a thread on a message board. Most people post replies in places like these to the topic at hand. Discussion ensues. Some people agree, some people disagree. I take it you disagree with me...NO PROBLEM. I've gone to extremes because I see outliers of the 'man vs. woman' deal/people of both genders as valid human beings whose individual 'differences' are respectable? Be He Man, be She Ra, be whatever it is that makes you, you. LOL, I don't get how I have insulted you so grievously from indulging in the purpose of the discussion board, following all posted rules. I never spoke a foul word against anyone here, and that's a fact. I never called anyone out here, and that is also a fact.
Now, for myself, I will say this. Maybe I have low tolerance for the frou-frou prissy image heaped upon ALLLL women because I am not that. I could never afford to be that. Situations in my life put me in contact with people I was once ignorant of, but knowing them and seeing that they are just as 'normal' as any of the rest of us changed my mind and point of view about a lot of things. Assigning people to boxes is dangerous. All men are not 'this' and all women are not 'that'. It's an ignorant sentiment, and I will not apologize for failing to jump on the bandwagon due to my oh so puny 'noob' status. I stand by my words and take responsibility for them, even when I have been in error and am seeking forgiveness. I see no error here, only a difference of opinion and unfounded attack.
I'm a proponent of gender differences between the 2 sexes which is in part why I regard active homosexuality as wrong, and effeminate male mannerisms in those gay males that are effeminate as wrong in so far as adding fuel to the fire. I also regard transsexual changes as wrong too. Albeit, I accept all these people but I regard it as wrong nonetheless.
Championing homosexuality and transsexual changes among individuals clearly born members of the sex they neither identify with in body or gender, whilst claiming some "innate" difference in men and women that exceeds the anatomical and physiological differences is just "retarded" so-to-speak.
This is all borne of a confused society.
True, a lot of gender conceptions are socially constructed things. Like the men know how to fix cars thing, or the women don't box or bench press thing.
In a more orderly society people either keep to gender rules or do away with gender rules altogether. What an orderly society does not do is have increasingly contradictory gender rules: e.g., women can't fight men therefore put women in the military infantry so they can fight men. That's a contradiction--irrespective of it being the popular liberal Hollywood conception of what a "good guy" should think and parrot circa 2013.
Well the transsexuals and homosexuals aren't going to go away just because you don't like it. Coexist in peace.
I really have no idea why I am being singled out here. Let's recap: This is a thread on a message board. Most people post replies in places like these to the topic at hand. Discussion ensues. Some people agree, some people disagree. I take it you disagree with me...NO PROBLEM. I've gone to extremes because I see outliers of the 'man vs. woman' deal/people of both genders as valid human beings whose individual 'differences' are respectable? Be He Man, be She Ra, be whatever it is that makes you, you. LOL, I don't get how I have insulted you so grievously from indulging in the purpose of the discussion board, following all posted rules. I never spoke a foul word against anyone here, and that's a fact. I never called anyone out here, and that is also a fact.
Now, for myself, I will say this. Maybe I have low tolerance for the frou-frou prissy image heaped upon ALLLL women because I am not that. I could never afford to be that. Situations in my life put me in contact with people I was once ignorant of, but knowing them and seeing that they are just as 'normal' as any of the rest of us changed my mind and point of view about a lot of things. Assigning people to boxes is dangerous. All men are not 'this' and all women are not 'that'. It's an ignorant sentiment, and I will not apologize for failing to jump on the bandwagon due to my oh so puny 'noob' status. I stand by my words and take responsibility for them, even when I have been in error and am seeking forgiveness. I see no error here, only a difference of opinion and unfounded attack.
Well, Anterled.... you've been around the "proverbial" CD block a time or two yourself, so I'd be careful about making too life and sunshine references.
I was just having a convo with Mrs. Chow and in the convo, it came up about working out.
I was joking around about sometimes it's cool to be on a weight bench with about 250 pound on your chest and you have to "man up" and pump that bad boy up... you know... bench pressing...... it's a fav for men to do... women don't do it.. but any ways.. the greater thought is how women and men are different.
Mrs. Chow laughed and talked about liking aerobics and yoga, and feeling light and stretched, and things of that order....
I think.. men and women sometimes get at a crossroads because we basically have differing views.. I know I'm talking about working out here, but it's metaphoric for other things...
Lets accept that women and men are different... let's not try and change it... just revel in the differences.
There is a word called synergy.
That is the definition of what men and women are...
I love the differences between men and women, I just don't want to be bound by stereotypes.
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All I meant was in general, men and women are different, I think we should just accept some of the differences and maybe, just maybe, appreciate them as well.......
I appreciate what you were trying to do with this thread, but the problem was that you basically went across the line when you brought gender into the equation. You should have stuck to "humans" instead of "male/female".
Because I agree that every HUMAN is different. And that yes, we should respect and accept them. And yes, even embrace their differences.
And that's what I do. I don't generalize a gender because I have been proven wrong over and over again. Not only by my own self, but by people I meet. I haven't ever really been able to say, "all men/women ___". Not even with the few people in my own life. Oh wait. I could say the physical attributes of a male/female, because I haven't met any transgendered/hermaphrodites/etc (that I know of).
I appreciate what you were trying to do with this thread, but the problem was that you basically went across the line when you brought gender into the equation. You should have stuck to "humans" instead of "male/female".
Because I agree that every HUMAN is different. And that yes, we should respect and accept them. And yes, even embrace their differences.
And that's what I do. I don't generalize a gender because I have been proven wrong over and over again. Not only by my own self, but by people I meet. I haven't ever really been able to say, "all men/women ___". Not even with the few people in my own life. Oh wait. I could say the physical attributes of a male/female, because I haven't met any transgendered/hermaphrodites/etc (that I know of).
Considering the recent data gained from large scale brain mapping that shows significant differences in the neural connections of male and female brains that have a direct effect on cognitive reasoning, motor skills, social abilities, and many other factors your argument has no technical merit. As a woman you were born to think differently than a man. It is coded into your DNA.
Personally I'm glad because I think the world would pretty much suck if women were the same as men.
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