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Well, my take on is that since a lot of women don't appear to value themselves in terms of making men "chase" them. The milk doesn't seem to have the same value... IDK.
The animal kingdom, the females make the men work for the "opportunity" to mate.
Yes, I know... this sounds like a conservative "prude" thing to say. I just mean it in the sense that, I don't really care how we slice it... men don't like it if a woman "gives" is up too quickly........ yeah, he may like it at the moment... but most likely he's not gonna think of her as a keeper.
Kinda sad in a sense.. but I think at the heart of it... men and women... were still animals... at some level......
Yeah, just get the name right in the nasty reps......
There are also some men that have learned (thru experience) that if she doesn't give it up, there's not much point in whipping a dead horse, and she's not worth a second thought.
I agree she isn't automatically a keeper just cause she makes you work a bit...
Do you really want the town pump???
Look... I'm as liberal as they come.. in certain situations... I'm just speaking the truth..... no man wants a woman that was say a prostitute....
If you say otherwise you're full of shyt.....
Really???
Why not???
Yes! I am a man.
Are you aware that a former CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank married a retired prostitute after his first wife passed away, and when his second wife passed away, he married another prostitute for his third wife... (His third wife out-lived him)
If the woman has nothing to donate to me that I don't want (STDs), I don't have a problem with her past profession.
Are you aware that a former CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank married a retired prostitute after his first wife passed away, and when his second wife passed away, he married another prostitute for his third wife... (His third wife out-lived him)
If the woman has nothing to donate to me that I don't want (STDs), I don't have a problem with her past profession.
Come on now, nobody really wants a prostitute. Your example is interesting, but assuming it's true it's probably because that guy wanted somebody he could have towering stature and control over - not unlike the dynamic child molesters use.
On second thought, "Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free?" might be a simple way of telling a girl to not give into sex too fast if she wants the guy to stick around and commit to an actual relationship.
Why don't the simple thoughts come first?
But isn't that assuming that women don't want sex, and that sex is something they "give into" in order to manipulate men?
But isn't that assuming that women don't want sex, and that sex is something they "give into" in order to manipulate men?
Yes. Exactly.
Prior to women's lib and the invention of hormonal birth control, society dictated that women could only be successful if they "caught" a man and married him. Good girls didn't do sex before marriage, and supposedly didn't like it even when married (which was often true in pre-birth-control days when sex often resulted in a series of unwanted pregnancies).
I agree with you on the bolded part..... I meant purely in "general" terms... I understand people have connections and have sex quickly... I'm not oblivious to this... look... I"m a grown man... I know the deal.
Matter of fact, Mrs. Chow and I had sex pretty early on, and we've been together 20 yrs, this coming July.
My comments, like I said, were generalities.....
Exceptions do apply... as in all areas of life....
You make a good point. It's not about sex per se.
Some people know marriage is definitely in the works and decide not to wait to have sex. The committed relationship is already there.
That's quite different from one-night stands or when women want committment but think having sex without committment will somehow get a committed relationship.
And it's common that one partner in a live-together relationship believes it is just like being married while the other only wants to live together because they don't intend to marry this person.
But women face an almost impossible burden. They have to read and judge their male partner carefully from day one to determine when the right moment to have sex occurs.
Don't want to be too early or too late--or you will be judged a ***** or a prude (who, as one poster put it, is not worth a second thought!)
But every man is different--different experiences, self confidence, attitudes about what sex "means," madonna-***** issues, etc. How are we to correctly judge, in every case, the moment he gets past all that baggage and is ready to have grown up, consensual, non-transactional, guilt-free sex?
It's a freaking minefield. Long ago I decided I would have sex on my terms, not some confused man's. And if he loses interest and respect for me simply because I was an equal participant in satisfying our mutual desire, then he isn't someone I want in my life.
Thousands of years of male/female biological evolution can not be simply wiped away just because of feminism.
Yes, and a whole lot of single mothers out there are left stranded raising their offspring alone and completely dependent on government programs.
What's even sadder is that many of them actually try to hold onto a guy by having a baby for him and find it doesn't work.
A lot of women really aren't happy with loveless sex. They do the one-night stands and the short term hook-ups but when it's all said and done, they are lonely.
I got a little change in my pocket going jingle lingle ling
want to call you on the telephone baby I give you a ring
but each time we talk I get the same old thing
always no huggin no kissin until I get a wedding ring
my honey my baby don't put my love upon no shelf
she said don't give no lines and keep your hands to yourself
Cruel baby baby baby why you want to treat me this way
you know I'm still your lover boy I still feel the same way
that's when she told me a story 'bout free milk and a cow
and she said no huggin no kissin until I get a wedding vow
my honey my baby don't put my love upon no shelf
she said don't hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself
you see I wanted her real bad and I was about to give in
that's when she started talkin' true love started talkin' about sin
I said honey I'll live with you for the rest of my life
she said no huggin no kissin until you make me your wife
my honey my baby don't put my love on no shelf
she don't hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself.
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