Ladies, how long would you stay in a relationship without a ring? (cheat, American)
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Someone told me recently, when I said that very thing, about men proposing in order to "not lose" someone-
he said "That's the reason men propose!!"
It was so simple, but very true.
A man who proposes at any time does it for that reason. In other words, why else does a man propose? (disbarring an unexpected pregnancy)
Generalise much ? Hubby was the one who wanted to get married ( no pregrancy on the horizon) and is the one still pestering me to chose an engagement ring which I have refused for 4 years... ( we have been married for two now and he still wants me to get that ring).
He wasn't about to lose me so gee I wonder why he proposed ?!?!
Some men seem to care more about marriage than some women. To me it still is only a piece of paper. It matters to him more. He wears a Wedding ring because he wants to. I don't. And we have lived together since 1988. Two months after we met we had shacked up together and were deeply committed to each other and I have always considered myself married since.
Time doesnt matter. If the guy has money, she will stay.
That is incredibly offensive as well as a sweeping generalisation. I left a fortune behind me so I could be who I wanted to be and chose the man I wanted to be with. And would do it all over again in a nano second.
Hubby has a middling income and I come from wealth. Money never even crossed my mind when deciding to be in a relationship with someone.
Not all women are rapacious, venal creatures intent on getting their claws into a guy's bank account. Some of us are even quite nice and are not quite as shallow and vapid as you paint the female sex.
Someone told me recently, when I said that very thing, about men proposing in order to "not lose" someone-
he said "That's the reason men propose!!"
It was so simple, but very true.
A man who proposes at any time does it for that reason. In other words, why else does a man propose? (disbarring an unexpected pregnancy)
LOVE!
I proposed because i was in love and could never conceive of my life being anywhere near as good without her as it was with her, because i wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. Not to 'tag' her, how stupid would you have to be to do that? Being engaged doesn't stop someone from leaving you and being married certainly doesn't.
Generalise much ? Hubby was the one who wanted to get married ( no pregrancy on the horizon) and is the one still pestering me to chose an engagement ring which I have refused for 4 years... ( we have been married for two now and he still wants me to get that ring).
He wasn't about to lose me so gee I wonder why he proposed ?!?!
Some men seem to care more about marriage than some women. To me it still is only a piece of paper. It matters to him more. He wears a Wedding ring because he wants to. I don't. And we have lived together since 1988. Two months after we met we had shacked up together and were deeply committed to each other and I have always considered myself married since.
^^^ I agree. The very morning after my bf and I made love, he announced that he loved me. I was in shock and there was a long awkward pause. lol However, right away, my bf felt very strongly that I was his "one", and eight years later, he still does. Also, about a month after he moved in with me, he announced that he put me in his will as his sole beneficiary (he has a small trust fund).
My bf is willing to marry me anytime I want to. Neither of us have or ever wanted to have children. He just wants to spend the rest of his life with me. I was married about 20 years ago for two years, and for me, I see no need to get married again.
Someone told me recently, when I said that very thing, about men proposing in order to "not lose" someone-
he said "That's the reason men propose!!"
It was so simple, but very true.
A man who proposes at any time does it for that reason. In other words, why else does a man propose? (disbarring an unexpected pregnancy)
Theres a lot of truth to this, many men propose to simply "lock down" that one particular women for one of 2 reasons
A. He's scared she'll find something better
B. he realizes VERY quickly that's the best he can ever do
Generalise much ? Hubby was the one who wanted to get married ( no pregrancy on the horizon) and is the one still pestering me to chose an engagement ring which I have refused for 4 years... ( we have been married for two now and he still wants me to get that ring).
He wasn't about to lose me so gee I wonder why he proposed ?!?!
Some men seem to care more about marriage than some women. To me it still is only a piece of paper. It matters to him more. He wears a Wedding ring because he wants to. I don't. And we have lived together since 1988. Two months after we met we had shacked up together and were deeply committed to each other and I have always considered myself married since.
I know at least three couples where the man wanted to get married and she wasn't bothered. Times are changing, many women see marriage as either irrelevant or a restriction on their lifestyle.
And for many women who are desperate to get married, they have simply been sold on the social expectations and hype which our society is still trying to push. This illusion of "security" and legal " commitment".
But these days fortunately things are changing, women are more independent and there is no stigma attached to cohabiting.
I know dozens of couples happily commited to one another with kids who have no intention of ever getting married. And the world still goes round and life carries on...
The world is moving on thank goodness and plenty of us Ladies really do not give a Baboon's derriere about a ring, or a piece of paper.
I knew my boyfriend loved me and was committed to me long before he became my husband. Our relationship has not changed or improved because of a piece of paper. We loved each other then and we still do.
If people in long term relationships were given exactly the same rights as married couples ( financial and legal) I suspect marriage would decline even faster.
Many mature adult men do want marriage. And as for the men on this board who disagree with this statement do a grave disservice to their own sex. Are you thinking that men aren't able to truly fall in real and lasting love? Do you really think your own sex that shallow and only interested in women for sexual pleasure?
I do know many (young) men that do look forward to marriage and children. They want to find that special woman to spend the rest of their life with, building a home and raising children together. And having children within a marriage is because they want their children to have their name and to carry on their family lineage and traditions... things that they are proud of being part of.
The also invented fairy tales. (they're all originally written by men)
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