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Not every debate has to do with conservative and liberal thought.
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Originally Posted by CHTransplant
I'm getting confused in this debate which side the conservatives are taking vs. the liberals. It has seemed like the conservatives were the ones arguing for the "absolute property rights," but I'd be shocked if the conservatives would be the same ones arguing that we should be governed by the "spirit of the law" rather than a strict construction. (Not labeling you one way or the other Joey - just a general observation about the exchanges here.)
Not every debate has to do with conservative and liberal thought.
True. It's just that you don't often find the "big gubmint is the enemy taking all our rights" folks on the same side of a debate with the "touchy feely spirit of the law instead of the letter" folks.
This week, the Raleigh Board of Adjustment deemed Bett and Bill Padgett's house concerts to be a "prima facie" business, and the Padgetts are allowed to have only 3 concerts a year, instead of their regular 9, which they've had for many years.
They live in a huge house on 3 acres off Wade Avenue, across from a church. They've never had one complaint about noise or parking. They bought the house so they could invite musicians in.
They can fit 100 people in their living room area for concerts, and all monies go directly to the musician(s).
The Padgetts make absolutely nothing, in fact they pay for refreshments and work hard to make the concerts happen. She is a music teacher and singer. He retired from NCSU. For years, they have worked hard to make the community a better place.
We've gone to the concerts for years, and it's an absolutely outrageous ruling.
The government should not have that much power to tell you what you can and can't do in your own home! I spent 2 weeks "behind the Iron Curtain" in the 70's, and the situation reminded me of my time there.
It just isn't right.
They might as well make birthday parties, political gatherings (where money is collected), Amway and Tupperware parties, and Bible study illegal -- if you have more than 3 a year. Maybe those will be next?
What do you think? Should the law be changed?
Sounds as if it is time to vote a few people out of office!!! Find out who voted for it, and get rid of them.
True. It's just that you don't often find the "big gubmint is the enemy taking all our rights" folks on the same side of a debate with the "touchy feely spirit of the law instead of the letter" folks.
The letter of the law is almost NEVER an realistic application of the law. There are 67,000 pages of Federal laws alone and the general public understands about 12 of them. Our appointed and elected officials don't understand 99% of them, how could they? Laws and acts are often designed to be later interpreted by the courts, which means innocent people are often harassed and badgered by ill intended prosecutors, city officials and the like, which does in fact apply "spirit of the law" which has nothing to do with being touchy freely.
If laws were applied in all cases, by "the letter of the law." All of us would be property of the state or federal system.
Neighbors are NOT complaining. The Padgetts know the neighbors, and the neighbors are fine with it. It's been going on for YEARS, with no problems.
The Padgetts are politically active (working tirelessly to make the community a better place), and so one suspects that the anonymous call that started all of this nonsense was from someone who didn't share their political views.
It's very sad.
But, according to N/O someone complained. It may or may not have been a direct neighbor.
This isn't a gathering of friends. This is 100+ people. That is quite a large group. When you are talking about 100+ people, it will impact a radius of many houses.
The other neighbors on either side are hidden by trees.
It wasn't a direct neighbor.
And if you ever attended a concert, it sure does feel like a gathering of friends. Big yard. Big house. People who have been attending for years and years.
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Originally Posted by chiledog
But, according to N/O someone complained. It may or may not have been a direct neighbor.
This isn't a gathering of friends. This is 100+ people. That is quite a large group. When you are talking about 100+ people, it will impact a radius of many houses.
The house conert organizer said that there was some misinformation on media stories about the house concert. The media said the complaint came from a neighbor, but according to the inspections department, it was anonymous and had nothing to do with negative impact on the neighborhood. Also, the number of attendees, the collection of money and the type of event were noted as being irrelevant -- it was only the number (3) that makes events in a "prima facia business" category.
I (Not labeling you one way or the other Joey - just a general observation about the exchanges here.)
Thanks, cuz I don't fit into either category and (seemingly unlike most everyone else these days) don't care to. I take whatever stance on a given issue makes sense to me and don't care whether that is considered "conservative" or "liberal."
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Originally Posted by chiledog
This isn't a gathering of friends. This is 100+ people. That is quite a large group. When you are talking about 100+ people, it will impact a radius of many houses.
I've been to parties of about 100. It's considerable, but not necessarily like a "crowd" or impacting anyone except the cars lining the street(s) right nearby. And assuming we're talking about considerate, intelligent adults vs some rowdy frat house type kids, it isn't necessarily disruptive either.
The letter of the law is almost NEVER an realistic application of the law.
I wasn't advocating one approach or the other - just pointing out that "politics makes strange bedfellows."
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(Not labeling you one way or the other Joey - just a general observation about the exchanges here.)
