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Yeah..but then there are the other ding-dongs out there, that think they will just magically find a job when they arrive here. Really and truly, you have people that think when they move to Raleigh, that "JOB" will come magically knocking at their apartment or house front door.
It seems thast almost once a week someone says something to the tune of "We're moving next week, where should we move to? I'm not worried about finding a job as I have good connections/have never had trouble before/have XX degree/have been told it's a great job market/have seen lots of online listings in your area (but how many have you scored actual interviews with???)/etc."
Both parts are true. If someone says thyey have a job/offer, they don't need to be reminded that they should have one. But if they say they do NOT, it's good advice to give a realistic portrait, contrary to what the latest Yahoo web list of "20 greatest cities to find a job in" says.
If they don't mention it at all, some will assume yes and some will assume no, and answer accordingly, so if they are really offended by getting that advice, they should just say at the beginning "I'm transferring because of my spouse's job..." or "I am accepting an offer to work there" etc. to nip it in the bud. The ones who say "we want to move to NC, what city should we move to?" with no other info (such as that they are retired) seem to me to pretty clearly not have something lined up, and how can anyone recommend a city when they don't know if they will find work there?
Simple solution to those who deeply offended or merely annoyed by unwanted advice on CD.
Here we go. Ready?
Post the following: Not a problem. Already got job. So how about those kid friendly restaurants and places of worship. Any of those in Cary?
Those who want to avoid the employment portal question altogether could start out with: Got a job in Cary and wondered if there are any churches, or kid friendly restaurants.
Vicki, as you are in real estate, I am assuming that the clients you are directing here are buying a home, which likely means they either have a job or don't need one. It would be perfect for them to mention right up top that they don't need a job, they need to know if there's Trader Joe's in town and they have no idea how Goggle works.
This is a thread about moving to the area before finding a job and how that didn't work out so well and people are posting about how annoying and offensive the get-a-job-first-advice is.
Really, now.
Sorry, you're wrong. It's OK if you're one of those people who can't admit it, but you are. There is NO REASON to bring it up in a thread where it's not addressed. It's also NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS whether someone is moving here without a job or not. You do realize that there are people who are retired who still have school age children, right? Or people who literally have hundreds of thousands of dollars in their bank account from the sale of their house? Or maybe they got a huge inheritance, or are a trustafarian? None of that is your concern. NONE of it. I know people who fall into all of these categories, and would no sooner tell you on an anonymous internet forum than they would in real life. None of your beeswax.
You can't seem to grasp that, that's ok. I can't be bothered explaining anymore. Have a nice night.
Sorry, you're wrong. It's OK if you're one of those people who can't admit it, but you are. There is NO REASON to bring it up in a thread where it's not addressed. It's also NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS whether someone is moving here without a job or not. You do realize that there are people who are retired who still have school age children, right? Or people who literally have hundreds of thousands of dollars in their bank account from the sale of their house? Or maybe they got a huge inheritance, or are a trustafarian? None of that is your concern. NONE of it. I know people who fall into all of these categories, and would no sooner tell you on an anonymous internet forum than they would in real life. None of your beeswax.
You can't seem to grasp that, that's ok. I can't be bothered explaining anymore. Have a nice night.
I'm with twingles! Guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
Maybe we should try this...
Vicki's client: Hi, I'm moving to the area and wonder where the trader joe's is located.
CD: Don't let your dog poop or pee on other people's property...we don't like that here!!!
Vicki's client: I don't have a dog or a cat but I do have a job!
In North VA you are currently in a VERY good part of the nation for jobs. You might gain some things, depending on what you're looking for, by moving here, but likewise you would also be giving some things up.
I've lived all over the country and northern Virginia (and DC area) is near the bottom of places that I want to settle my family. There's no way in hell I'm raising kids here. The ONE main thing it has going for it, is it's almost impossible to be unemployed, even in the current job market. People are INCREDIBLY unfriendly, pretentious, rude, bland, singly focused on status and money. You'd think it would ease up a bit in the suburbs, but it doesn't. We've always easily made friends in the many places we've lived (including bigger cities like Chicago). When we get out of town to Richmond, Raleigh or elsewhere the change is drastic. Even when we visit New York City, which has the stereotype of being rude/unfriendly, the people seem refreshingly nice. I worked with a hard nosed manager here from NYC, and he agreed that people are definitely nicer in NYC. The hand full of friendly people we've met here all have schemes of getting the hell out. I've lived here 5 years now and not a day has gone by where I've dreamed of the day I'm outta here. Problem is, with the economy the way it is, we feel trapped here now. (other people trapped here refer to this as "the golden handcuffs")
Mike, I am thinking that since you work in real estate, you are likely working with folks who were successful in securing employment and thus a mortgage and not those who were watching their live savings dwindle waiting for an interview.
Would be interesting to know how many of the people you work with had a job lined up before moving her or were transferred by their company as opposed to those who move here and then start job hunting.
In the last several months, I know 1/2 dozen people who have interviewed with and been hired in the tech industry. They already had jobs while interviewing, though. So, yes there are jobs out there, and yes, companies are hiring.
I've lived all over the country and northern Virginia (and DC area) is near the bottom of places that I want to settle my family. There's no way in hell I'm raising kids here. The ONE main thing it has going for it, is it's almost impossible to be unemployed, even in the current job market. People are INCREDIBLY unfriendly, pretentious, rude, bland, singly focused on status and money. You'd think it would ease up a bit in the suburbs, but it doesn't. We've always easily made friends in the many places we've lived (including bigger cities like Chicago). When we get out of town to Richmond, Raleigh or elsewhere the change is drastic. Even when we visit New York City, which has the stereotype of being rude/unfriendly, the people seem refreshingly nice. I worked with a hard nosed manager here from NYC, and he agreed that people are definitely nicer in NYC. The hand full of friendly people we've met here all have schemes of getting the hell out. I've lived here 5 years now and not a day has gone by where I've dreamed of the day I'm outta here. Problem is, with the economy the way it is, we feel trapped here now. (other people trapped here refer to this as "the golden handcuffs")
You could not pay me to live in Virginia. Every time I visit my sister in law, I think "WHY would anyone live here???" SO pretentious and unfriendly it's just ridiculous.
That having been said, Raleigh, although having much nicer people in general, is horrible for employment of any kind. We can't wait to get out of here.
I think people who join CD and post have to give up a valid email address.
Other than that, count me in with those who believe CD members should not have to offer up a complete CV and life's goals, DNA sample and genealogy to the curious or demanding to get straight answers to reasonable questions.
You could not pay me to live in Virginia. Every time I visit my sister in law, I think "WHY would anyone live here???" SO pretentious and unfriendly it's just ridiculous.
That having been said, Raleigh, although having much nicer people in general, is horrible for employment of any kind. We can't wait to get out of here.
I'm originally from Va Beach. Northern Virginia is completely different than the rest of Virginia. Richmond, two hours from here, is very friendly, about the same as Raleigh. I think alot of it has to do with people who are transient.. coming here to spice up there resume and get out. I have a lot of theories about why people behave the way they do here, but frankly I don't really care anymore, I just want out.
I've lived all over the country and northern Virginia (and DC area) is near the bottom of places that I want to settle my family. There's no way in hell I'm raising kids here. The ONE main thing it has going for it, is it's almost impossible to be unemployed, even in the current job market. People are INCREDIBLY unfriendly, pretentious, rude, bland, singly focused on status and money. You'd think it would ease up a bit in the suburbs, but it doesn't. We've always easily made friends in the many places we've lived (including bigger cities like Chicago). When we get out of town to Richmond, Raleigh or elsewhere the change is drastic. Even when we visit New York City, which has the stereotype of being rude/unfriendly, the people seem refreshingly nice. I worked with a hard nosed manager here from NYC, and he agreed that people are definitely nicer in NYC. The hand full of friendly people we've met here all have schemes of getting the hell out. I've lived here 5 years now and not a day has gone by where I've dreamed of the day I'm outta here. Problem is, with the economy the way it is, we feel trapped here now. (other people trapped here refer to this as "the golden handcuffs")
Well, none of can really make it any better for you but I will tell you that we have pretty much turned in to a seller's market so it is a good time to get your house ready to sell. That is the silver lining!
I think people who join CD and post have to give up a valid email address
I've never understood requiring a valid email address. Anyone can create them by the hundreds or thousands via gmail or any of the other web-based email providers.
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