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Old 04-20-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Let's get it on the record, upton.

Do you, or do you not, support left-wing terrorist organizations such as ELF?

"Yes" or "No".
These Eco groups are nothing but terrorists, and they have injured people, and threatened to kill people. The global warming freaks who predict dire doom and gloom are only adding to the fire, but you will never hear 0bama even suggest we have any reason to worry about them.

Ecoterrorism: Extremism in the Animal Rights and Environmentalist Movements
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Limbaugh has stated that he agrees with McVeigh's assessment of WACO. Limbaugh regurgitated McVeigh's rants, no argument here.
Mind posting a link - I'm sure you'll understand if we don't take YOUR interpretation of what was said.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Tell ya what - as soon as y'all stop trying to paint the Tea Party movement as populated with racists, extremists and terrorists, I'll consider giving a damn about what you have to say.
You can deny all you want but that ain't changing the truth. BTW, a mob or a leader doesn't have to be directly involved in actions. They simply have to incite a few that share the fringoism.

Do you think, a selected tea party spokeperson like Sarah Palin would be happy if someone mapped out her home and placed cross hairs on it, to go with a bit of a "speech"?
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:41 AM
 
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Clinton was so "unpopular" that he won a landslide victory a year later? Come on, man! At least try to get a few facts straight.
Ha ha. Do some research. He did win the election later. At the time he used it, the Republicans had just done very well in mid-term elections and he was seen as weak. He did rally and win the election, and he also used McVeigh this way.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:43 AM
 
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Having rallies on the anniversary of OKC bombing and rationalizing McVeigh's actions reveal quite a bit about the tea party. Just saying.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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NO I don't support domestic terrorism from any side for any reason...that includes the left.
Whew. I know we disagree on things, but I was really starting to wonder about your sanity.

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Now, are you going to admit that your attempt to compare the ELF with McVeigh doesn't hold water when you take into account the following figures?

McVeigh-168

ELF-0
No, because body count doesn't matter - terrorism is terrorism, and it's equally wrong, regardless of who's doing it, why they're doing it or how many people die because of it.

But I guess that it's "less wrong" in your eyes, since nobody died.

Maybe I'm still wondering about your sanity after all.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Maybe they are really pro-government gestapo by having the rallies on the anniversary of Waco...
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:54 AM
 
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Returning the favor? And all of those innocent children had what to do with Waco and Ruby Ridge?


Disgusting.
It could be vice versa. The government murders children so someone returned the favor why you complaining? You seem to think the government can do whatever it wants without repurcusions well think again.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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Wow.... so you are justifying what McVeigh did, and those people he murdered- the mothers going in to get social security cards for their babies, etc. are just collateral damage? Nothing more?
Christ I have already said I am justifying nothing. War is hell get over it.When the government learns it can not bully people around and not expect to be hit back twice fold then we might get somewhere.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:57 AM
 
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It could be vice versa. The government murders children so someone returned the favor why you complaining? You seem to think the government can do whatever it wants without repurcusions well think again.
How is murdering innocent lives, including children in Oklahoma city justified? If you have a beef with the government take it up with them, no need to involve civilians. This was wrong on so many levels.
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