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Old 04-20-2010, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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Wow.... so you are justifying what McVeigh did, and those people he murdered- the mothers going in to get social security cards for their babies, etc. are just collateral damage? Nothing more?

In my belief if any man committed an act like the Oklahoma City Bombing I would have no sympathy for the animal who kills innocents, but I also don't believe everything I hear in the media when they blame someone for something. Especially something of that magnitude. People have questions that still need answered, but the government shuts down the investigation as quick as possible after they cover things up. That way we can't get to the answers behind it all.

My personal question is how did McVeigh and Terry Nichols set up other bombs in the federal building without anyone noticing? Until that is answered for me I will always have doubts about who "all" is responsible for the bombing. People watch too much "24" and shows like that and have the mindstate that the people behind the scenes in the government always have our best interests in mind. I don't trust people who do things in the shadows.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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When did Bill Clinton rationalize McVeigh's actions? When did he blame Limbaugh for OKC. I'd like to see the quotes? Limbaugh has actually blamed Clinton, I've given you the links to his own page, nothing out of context there. Limbaugh isn't just "some poster on C-D" he is probably the most influential pundit on the tea party circuit. If not, he is in the top 3.
McVeigh cited Clinton's actions as the reason for OKC, I'm sure all Limbaugh did was repeat that fact.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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^^That was a British movie that was denounced by many liberals, including Hillary Clinton, NPR, and several theater chains. I had never heard of it until I joined CD.
Of course you've never seen any of the signs from the Left during all those anti-war protests either.

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Tea party tries to distance themselves from McVeigh, while at the same time rationalizing his actions and shifting blame towards others.
When did this happen? When did the TP become aligned with McVeigh?

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Well then, instead of complaining about MSNBC, stand up and denounce McVeigh's actions..

In fact, all the Teabaggers and their sympathizers can avoid any more charges of coddling McVeigh by just making it clear that there was absolutely NO justification for what he did..

Enough with the justifications and rationalizing..
When did the TP coddle McVeigh? See, another manufactured controversy from the Left in an attempt to discredit the TP - EPIC FAIL. Can't you see that those things you accuse the right of, you yourself are guilty of ?

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Returning the favor? And all of those innocent children had what to do with Waco and Ruby Ridge?


Disgusting.
Innocent children at Waco and RR too - where was your disgust then?
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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McVeigh cited Clinton's actions as the reason for OKC, I'm sure all Limbaugh did was repeat that fact.
Limbaugh has stated that he agrees with McVeigh's assessment of WACO. Limbaugh regurgitated McVeigh's rants, no argument here.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Let's get it on the record, upton.

Do you, or do you not, support left-wing terrorist organizations such as ELF?

"Yes" or "No".
You eventually responded to me so I'll do the same for you.. NO I don't support domestic terrorism from any side for any reason...that includes the left.

Now, are you going to admit that your attempt to compare the ELF with McVeigh doesn't hold water when you take into account the following figures?

McVeigh-168

ELF-0
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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This is old. Clinton used the exact same tactic in 1995 when it happened. He was unpopular and tried to link conservatives that didn't agree with him to McVeigh.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The Davidians were religious nuts, and I would not put it past them to have set those fires to be martyrs, but the actions by our government were reckless and way over the top, so Reno and Pres. Clinton, should be held up for some of the blame for the outcome, if not all.
I was agreeing with that statement. It was a proven fact that the Dravidians poisoned their own people and then set fire to the place so they could be martyrs. What I'm calling wacky & stupid is Rush Limbaugh's latest conspiracy theory that some how the evil Bill Clinton ordered all of those people to commit suicide.

Limbaugh's trying to excuse the OK City Bombing by saying it was just a natural response to Clinton murdering 168 people. The problem is Limbaugh's who screed is a lie, the Dravidians committed mass suicide as cultists so often do, and Tim McVay really was a right wing terrorist.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:35 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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This is old. Clinton used the exact same tactic in 1995 when it happened. He was unpopular and tried to link conservatives that didn't agree with him to McVeigh.
Clinton was so "unpopular" that he won a landslide victory a year later? Come on, man! At least try to get a few facts straight.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Innocent children at Waco and RR too - where was your disgust then?

Many of us were disgusted about RR and Waco, I know I was...but that in NO WAY, not even a little bit, justifies what McVeigh did..
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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McVeigh cited Clinton's actions as the reason for OKC, I'm sure all Limbaugh did was repeat that fact.
I see your side because you are thinking why is it such a big deal that Clinton wants to warn people that this anger can create a homegrown terrorist, but I also see the side where Clinton can be using that statement along with other things media says against the Tea Party as a misdirection to the public so that the powers that work in the shadows can create a false flag attack.

Now where we are different is that you probably don't beleive that the government would blow up a building with innocents in it to push an agenda. I on the other hand do believe that this could happen. Now am I saying for sure that this is going to happen, "No" but I am on the look out and will have many questions besides what the media feeds me if an attack does happen.
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