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Old 04-09-2010, 12:12 PM
 
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Yes, I guess most people who go to jail have not become better people with fewer problems by the time they get out.
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Old 04-09-2010, 04:53 PM
 
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Yes, I guess most people who go to jail have not become better people with fewer problems by the time they get out.
That is right. Going to jail does not mean they 'get taught a lesson: We need to bring back the ole Arkansas prison gangs. The gangs where they work hard all day and after super the bossman will ask his road crew boss "Any man slack on the job today"? And then the men that have get a whippin with a belt...
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Old 04-09-2010, 05:08 PM
 
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Yes, I can see it now....


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Old 04-09-2010, 05:12 PM
 
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I have often suggested outsourcing jails for felons serving more than five years. China would be a perfect candidate as they have one of the lowest repeat rates in the world. American rehabilitation is a proven failure. I think the loss of American citizenship and the discipline of a Chinese prison would get much better results. The cost of housing a prisoners in a Chinese prison inclusive of transportation would be far less than paying for the same incarceration in the states.
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Old 04-09-2010, 05:33 PM
 
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I have often suggested outsourcing jails for felons serving more than five years. China would be a perfect candidate as they have one of the lowest repeat rates in the world. American rehabilitation is a proven failure. I think the loss of American citizenship and the discipline of a Chinese prison would get much better results. The cost of housing a prisoners in a Chinese prison inclusive of transportation would be far less than paying for the same incarceration in the states.


How about a Turkish prison? Should work like a charm!


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BTW - do you really think another country would agree to take on our worse felons as citizens of their own? You indicated that they should also lose their American citizenship....just a couple of minor details to iron out in this otherwise brilliant plan.
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Old 04-10-2010, 01:27 PM
 
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That is right. Going to jail does not mean they 'get taught a lesson: We need to bring back the ole Arkansas prison gangs. The gangs where they work hard all day and after super the bossman will ask his road crew boss "Any man slack on the job today"? And then the men that have get a whippin with a belt...
I am not so sure that is the solution
Actually I like the new intelligent approaches, like entrusting prisoners with baby animals. That works better than any shrink therapy or violent punishment.
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Old 04-10-2010, 01:37 PM
 
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Just deport all the non-citizen criminals back to their own country and that would reduce the prison population by at least 30-35%.
How would deporting the 6-7% of non-citizens that make up the US prison population reduce the prison population by 30-35%???
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Old 04-12-2010, 01:48 PM
 
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I am not so sure that is the solution
Actually I like the new intelligent approaches, like entrusting prisoners with baby animals. That works better than any shrink therapy or violent punishment.
I don't have a problem with this approach being used for non violent types but for gang bangers, child molestors, killers and other predators nothing short of execution will ever work. At the very least, they need to be confined in supermax conditions for the rest of their life.

Not only does this approach keep a violent offendor away fromt he rest of us but it's also justice. Eye for an eye. It's simple common sense. I'm pretty liberal on social issues but on justice I'm to the right of Ted Nugent.

This whole mindset of trying to reason and empathize with Charles Manson types just drives me crazy.
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Old 04-12-2010, 01:55 PM
 
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lol so many fascists on this board
Indeed there are!! fascists and saddists!
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Old 04-12-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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I have often suggested outsourcing jails for felons serving more than five years. China would be a perfect candidate as they have one of the lowest repeat rates in the world. American rehabilitation is a proven failure. I think the loss of American citizenship and the discipline of a Chinese prison would get much better results. The cost of housing a prisoners in a Chinese prison inclusive of transportation would be far less than paying for the same incarceration in the states.
Oh, so you like the idea of torture......outsource those folks so they can be tortured.
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