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It has become extremely obvious that this administration has weakened our security of this country after the shooting at Ft. Hood. Homeland Security, CIA and FBI all knew that this terrorist was reaching out to Al Qaeda and the Imam in Yemen but failed to do anything at all about it.
Do you know the difference between political correctness and the rule of law?
Some how I doubt it.
In the case of Maj. Hasan, the government knew that he had contact with Anwar al-Awlaki but there is no evidence to date that Hasan had attempted to contact al-Qaeda which brings us to the rule of law. What part of the Constitution, the UCMJ, or U.S. Federal Code, could the government have used to do anything about Mj. Hasan, an American born citizen?
As for the Army, certainly if Maj, Hasan was a pilot, a tank commander, commander of a missile silo, had access to wmd's or classified information he could and should have been reassigned, but he the base shrink!!
Absent the foreknowledge that Maj, Hasan would violently act out upon his political views, there was nothing that any law enforcement or intelligence agency do to prevent his wanton acts.
well it is coddling really because if you look at his record his superiors knew he was having mental issues but let's be honest here the military isn't known for treating troops with known mental afflictions.
edit: pgh my response was to the OP regarding Bush. He is trying to point out that this incedent was worse that 9/11 and in terms of the amount of lives & destruction it pales in comparison.
No I wasn't making that comaprison. The comparison I was making is that you libs like to say that Bush knew "something by someone" might happen, but had no idea who or where. In this case, the govt. knew who this guy was, what he was up to and who he was communicating with and DID NOTHING!
Obama's non action? Are you honestly... strike that, you never argue anything honestly. Do you think that we are so stupid as to pretend that the head of counter-terrorism was insisting that President Obama call a meeting of the national security principles to review the pressing issue of Maj, Nidal Hasan, as Richard Clarke attempted to do with President Bush regarding a NIE warning of an imminent attack in the months prior to 9/11?
Do you seriously think that the existence of an Army shrink, with no access to planes, tanks, missiles, biological or atomic weapons rose to the level that it required presidential attention?
Do you have any idea how many people the CIA and FBI are monitoring in this country right now? Probably in the 10's if not 100's of thousands.
If any number of them decided to grab some handguns, go into a crowded building and start shooting people, there would almost nothing that could be done to stop them.
There are two types of people who need to shut up, and you're one of them. You're one of those "OMG, we need to increase security" types. Get off of it, crazy people kill people sometimes, its an awful fact of life in a free society. The bastard was caught, he will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of military law, and most likely executed. That is the most we can do.
shut up? Yeah, you would like people to shut up so more people can get killed. Yep, that's the menatility you show here. The FBI and CIA are NOT tracking hundreds of thousands of would be terrorists in this country. They had explicit information about this guy and ignored it. So he was just crazy and not a terrorist? But when a REAL crazy guy goes into the Holocaust museum and shoots 1 person, you and the rest of the crazy liberal crowd blew up these boards about his political affiliation and his religion???? Man you guys are twisted.
If any number of them decided to grab some handguns, go into a crowded building and start shooting people, there would almost nothing that could be done to stop them.
If that one individual was being monitored and was found to be contacting terrorists organizations and violating laws, it would completely dispute your own argument.
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Originally Posted by Memphis1979
There are two types of people who need to shut up, and you're one of them. You're one of those "OMG, we need to increase security" types. Get off of it, crazy people kill people sometimes, its an awful fact of life in a free society. The bastard was caught, he will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of military law, and most likely executed. That is the most we can do.
RIGHT.. SHUT UP.. If YOU dont like what they say, they should SHUT UP..
your one of those people that make this country what it is today, and its not positive..
Do you know the difference between political correctness and the rule of law?
Some how I doubt it.
In the case of Maj. Hasan, the government knew that he had contact with Anwar al-Awlaki but there is no evidence to date that Hasan had attempted to contact al-Qaeda which brings us to the rule of law. What part of the Constitution, the UCMJ, or U.S. Federal Code, could the government have used to do anything about Mj. Hasan, an American born citizen?
As for the Army, certainly if Maj, Hasan was a pilot, a tank commander, commander of a missile silo, had access to wmd's or classified information he could and should have been reassigned, but he the base shrink!!
Absent the foreknowledge that Maj, Hasan would violently act out upon his political views, there was nothing that any law enforcement or intelligence agency do to prevent his wanton acts.
Yes he did try and contact Al Qaeda, you need to follow this more closely. He sent an email to an address that has been inactive recently and is a known Al Qaeda address. They have the email.....
Obama's non action? Are you honestly... strike that, you never argue anything honestly. Do you think that we are so stupid as to pretend that the head of counter-terrorism was insisting that President Obama call a meeting of the national security principles to review the pressing issue of Maj, Nidal Hasan, as Richard Clarke attempted to do with President Bush regarding a NIE warning of an imminent attack in the months prior to 9/11?
Do you seriously think that the existence of an Army shrink, with no access to planes, tanks, missiles, biological or atomic weapons rose to the level that it required presidential attention?
We aren't the fools that you take us for.
Nope, you arent getting away with this one..
All you liberals did was jump up and down when the 911 attacks took place and blaming Bush for EVERYTHING. You arent getting a pass on this one at all. Yes, OBAMA did not stop a terrorists attack. If you are blaming Bush, then indeed Obama gets a similar blame..
All you liberals did was jump up and down when the 911 attacks took place and blaming Bush for EVERYTHING. You arent getting a pass on this one at all. Yes, OBAMA did not stop a terrorists attack. If you are blaming Bush, then indeed Obama gets a similar blame..
Atleast someone here is trying to play on a level playing field. I agree Pgh. As I even said before, this is kind of worse thatn what they are blaming Bush for. They had a name, a place of residence, evidence of his beliefs and the biggest one....It happened on a US military base where Obama is the CnC!
Dont forget to include Europe in this!
You have many european countries terrified of offending a demographic..
Of 2%-10% of their population.What will they do when the numbers increase???
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