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Old 08-31-2009, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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DANE_in_LA, Great post. Glad you came along and opened some eyes. Kudos, my friend.
Yup, that's my husband, the aristocrat.

 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Atlanta,GA
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Yup, that's my husband, the aristocrat.
Lucky Lady, I say....

Glad he came aboard to knock some sense in some of these sterile minds...
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Lucky Lady, I say....

Glad he came aboard to knock some sense in some of these sterile minds...
I am very lucky, indeed. I just want to know where the heck my share of the aristocratic family millions are, and why he's been holding back on me all these years.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Spent a few days in Copenhagen and Arhus and I had the greatest experience. I had been doing some research about Denmark especially given the fact that they are overall the happiest people in the world and the most satisfied with their health care system.

Everytime I travel to a different country, I just get this feeling that the US is a very overrated country, it also makes me realize how many lies Americans are told on a daily basis, this whole, "We are the greatest, no one compares to us" is truly a bunch of BS. Beautiful country, very safe, no guns, no homeless people, a very happy bunch of people overall

High taxes, and some evil socialism does not seem to be all that bad after all.
My grandmother is from Denmark and it is a beautiful country but I wouldn't live there.

America is grittier and more dangerous, but also more dynamic, with far greater opportunities. Denmark is a great place to visit, but not good place for an independent soul to flourish. Thanks for leaving it behind Grandma.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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This Country has been overrated since day one-- nothing new here
As has California. At least by some people.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:50 PM
 
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I have lived there, owned a home and paid taxes. Buying a home was way easier than in the US. The amount of paperwork (and the number of people who wanted their little cut of my money) over here was absolutely staggering.

Taxes were higher, sure - but the service level was pretty good, too. The health care paperwork in the US is completely out of control, and it drains money out of the health care sector. I was utterly surprised that a metropol the size of LA had such ****-poor public transportation.

As for starting a business, I sure know a couple of successful entrepeneurs among friends and family. (And one rather less successful, such is the nature of entrepeneurship.) One thing that makes it easier to strike out on your own is, ironically, tax-funded healthcare. You can start a business and even if you run it into the ground, your family maintains their health care coverage. Your kid still gets to go to college.

Great and somber post! Americans have really misunderstood socialist nations. They don't seem to grasp that socialism is not communism and its not politics; its economy. Besides, most of Europe is run by sort of social democratic politics. We also have a lot of wealthy people - this too they don't seem aware of. Perhaps Europe does not have the density of wealth like ex Southern California, but many people are not keen on having excessive wealth anyways. They prefer quality to quantity; their families mean more to them than money. In addition, showing off wealth is seen as "bad".

Americans appear to think socialist nations are akin to Russia (), and no one is working. But Europes unemployment is not much worse than here. Except now during recession its been higher, but will certainly go down.

Yes, there is greater ambitions to have more money in America; much much more, but I find that people are also more stressed and more emotionally discontent here. In Europe people want to work and achieve things but often in a more modest and stable manner. It would be shameful even for the rich to brag about their wealth or achievements. Its considered poor taste.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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America is grittier and more dangerous, but also more dynamic, with far greater opportunities. Denmark is a great place to visit, but not good place for an independent soul to flourish.
You know this from living there how long?
 
Old 08-31-2009, 01:56 PM
 
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Spent a few days in Copenhagen and Arhus and I had the greatest experience. I had been doing some research about Denmark especially given the fact that they are overall the happiest people in the world and the most satisfied with their health care system.

Everytime I travel to a different country, I just get this feeling that the US is a very overrated country, it also makes me realize how many lies Americans are told on a daily basis, this whole, "We are the greatest, no one compares to us" is truly a bunch of BS. Beautiful country, very safe, no guns, no homeless people, a very happy bunch of people overall

High taxes, and some evil socialism does not seem to be all that bad after all.
Ain't it the truth!

I visited extended family last year in the Suomen Tasavaalta", and came away thinking we are at least 2 generations behind.

If I were a younger man, it would be my nationality.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Atlanta,GA
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Great and somber post! Americans have really misunderstood socialist nations. They don't seem to grasp that socialism is not communism and its not politics; its economy. Besides, most of Europe is run by sort of social democratic politics. We also have a lot of wealthy people - this too they don't seem aware of. Perhaps Europe does not have the density of wealth like ex Southern California, but many people are not keen on having excessive wealth anyways. They prefer quality to quantity; their families mean more to them than money. In addition, showing off wealth is seen as "bad".

Americans appear to think socialist nations are akin to Russia (), and no one is working. But Europes unemployment is not much worse than here. Except now during recession its been higher, but will certainly go down.

Yes, there is greater ambitions to have more money in America; much much more, but I find that people are also more stressed and more emotionally discontent here. In Europe people want to work and achieve things but often in a more modest and stable manner. It would be shameful even for the rich to brag about their wealth or achievements. Its considered poor taste.
Great post. Your description, (or comparison, I should say) is indeed a clear picture of the difference between the two systems/societies.
 
Old 08-31-2009, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Yeah, about that. Danes don't take religion that bloody seriously, and the state church is the tamest religion to ever go by that name. If you don't feel like contributing, don't. There's even a box to check on the tax form. Exactly one person is obliged to be a member of the religion: The monarch.

As for those $23 per year, well - there is a cultural heritage that current generations are obliged to keep in good repair. 11th century cathedrals just can't be maintained on bake sale income and volunteerism. I'm as agnostic as they come, but that sure as hell never bothered me.

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Well, it sure as hell would bother the lefties here. They seem unable to wrap their little minds around the obvious link between religion and culture.

Perhaps it's because they have so little understanding of either....
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