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Old 06-26-2022, 08:27 PM
 
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An American theocracy would be a disaster.
There are some Christian sects in the US that will not allow women to vote because they would be asserting authority over men. The Amish would take us back to 1830. The Mormons would be living in a communal polygamous society if they could get away with it. I live in the 21st century. That scene is too bizarre even for us.

Not allow women to vote! That would be so conservative. Women are strong and totally not emotional. If it were not for women voting everything would be different.


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Old 06-26-2022, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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I would throw Orthodox Jews into the mix also. It's all about math and demographics. Secular people have very few kids, far below replacement. For the future look at the Middle East after WW2 with a large secular movement in many nations such as Iran, Iraq etc. The devout Muslims with a high birth rate overtook them and by the 1980's the reset began.

Give a 50 to 200 year frame and it could easily happen. Secular couples with zero or one child is a recipe for extinction. A book titled Shall the Religious inherit the Earth explains this very well.
I wouldn’t even say Orthodox Jews, I’d say specifically Hasidic Jews which is an ultra-Orthodox subgroup. I don’t know too many Orthodox non-Hasidic Jews that have massive amounts of children.
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Old 06-27-2022, 03:06 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I'd guess that most immigrants from Mexico and Central America are Catholic. Do you have a chart for that?
Probably. Catholicism has been the major religious persuasion there since the natives were forced into slavery and their land colonized starting in the 16th century. The conquerors brought along priests to convert them so that they would accept God's plan for them as slaves and be good little workers with the hope of a great afterlife.

In the U.S., immigrants are having children at a greater rate than whites. White death rates have actually surpassed birth rates, but part of that is the growing number of interracial couples. The Browning of America is still more likely to happen more quickly than either a Mormon or Amish majority. California already has a white minority population.

https://apnews.com/article/census-20...1a808b06d975ea
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Old 06-27-2022, 06:48 AM
 
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Probably. Catholicism has been the major religious persuasion there since the natives were forced into slavery and their land colonized starting in the 16th century. The conquerors brought along priests to convert them so that they would accept God's plan for them as slaves and be good little workers with the hope of a great afterlife.

In the U.S., immigrants are having children at a greater rate than whites. White death rates have actually surpassed birth rates, but part of that is the growing number of interracial couples. The Browning of America is still more likely to happen more quickly than either a Mormon or Amish majority. California already has a white minority population.

https://apnews.com/article/census-20...1a808b06d975ea
That's fine just as long as it's not done via illegal immigration and anchor babies. That's not lawful or natural. I couldn't care less about skin color if that's what you mean by the "browning" of America. I care about retaining our identifying culture and language and that immigrants come here legally and in measured numbers. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case for awhile now.

By the way, illegal aliens aren't plain ole "immigrants" either.
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Old 06-27-2022, 07:39 AM
 
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That's fine just as long as it's not done via illegal immigration and anchor babies. That's not lawful or natural. I couldn't care less about skin color if that's what you mean by the "browning" of America. I care about retaining our identifying culture and language and that immigrants come here legally and in measured numbers. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case for awhile now.

By the way, illegal aliens aren't plain ole "immigrants" either.
The vast majority of illegal immigrants are no different than the millions of European immigrants that came here in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. They are looking for a better life for themselves and their families, and an escape from the conditions in their home countries. That desire is not going to stop, and there is little that can be done to keep them out.
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