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Old 06-28-2022, 06:27 AM
 
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How would you feel if someone decided YOU are useless and determined to kill you. You might not like that idea.
Only three states don't have a death penalty. Everywhere else int he country, you can be determined useless and sentenced to death

Strangely enough, all the states with death penalties on the books are states that are outlawing abortion.

Go figure.

 
Old 06-28-2022, 06:28 AM
 
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Any laws regarding preventing states from regulating abortions are pretty much guaranteed to end up in the SC for now, except duplicate cases. If a state tries to enact bans or limitations and a lawsuit blocks that regulation, it isnt going to stop at a lower level. It doesnt have to be a "federal" question, only a constitutional one.
Correct. US Constitution's Supremacy Clause:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The US Constitution supersedes any and all state laws and state constitutions. SCOTUS just ruled that state legislatures have the authority to regulate abortion as they see fit. That does not violate the US Constitution.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 06:30 AM
 
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Only three states don't have a death penalty. Everywhere else int he country, you can be determined useless and sentenced to death

Strangely enough, all the states with death penalties on the books are states that are outlawing abortion.

Go figure.
A felon who gets the death penalty committed a heinous crime. What crime did a child in utero commit to warrant the death penalty?
 
Old 06-28-2022, 06:32 AM
 
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so in the case there is another human being inside her body can she do with it what she wants?
The arguement for abortion is essentially "hippity hoppety, fetuses are property"

The entire arguement is about if certain human life are people or if they are property..... the EXACT dispute when it came to slavery.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 06:33 AM
 
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Here's a preview the news stories for the next few years.

Women dying of self-induced and illegal abortions.


Though the self-righteous declare they are defending the lives of unborn children, once these defenseless babies are are born, they are left to fend for themselves. Oh, there will be WIC to help with formula and diapers, and perhaps a few visits by an overworked social worker, but that's about.

Women hang on the best they can, juggling jobs and food stamps and subsidized daycare, but after a time some of these kids will end up in and out of the already overwhelmed foster care system.

Hopefully, some of the self-righteous will step up to be decent foster parents, not the kind that have bedrooms filled with bunkbeds and make their living off the sorrow of children.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 06:39 AM
 
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Numbers are annually.



There are over 400,000 children in foster care.
Over 114,000 are waiting to be adopted.
Over 20,000 are never adopted.
Over 20,000 are born each year dependent on illegal or prescription drugs




Licensed foster parents receive a monthly stipend of between $500 and $600 per child per month. That is roughly 220 million tax dollars per month or 2.6 Billion per year. This does not include hospital/maternity/medical costs.

Mean total costs per abortion averages about $300
Abortions in the US about 600,000 a year.
Total spent on abortions, about 180,000 million.

Unwanted children are big business, over 4 times the cost of abortions just for foster care.


Follow the money.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 06:44 AM
 
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A felon who gets the death penalty committed a heinous crime. What crime did a child in utero commit to warrant the death penalty?
Child? So melodramatic.

No liberty without privacy and bodily autonomy. Strap in for a bumpy ride while we work through this crap.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 06:47 AM
 
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Child? So melodramatic.

No liberty without privacy and bodily autonomy. Strap in for a bumpy ride while we work through this crap.
I like how you dodged the substance of the post you responded to because you had no intelligent answer... skillfully done.

As I said above, there is a right to privacy and noisily autonomy..... but you can't use those rights as an automatic justification for homicide.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 06:47 AM
 
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A felon who gets the death penalty committed a heinous crime. What crime did a child in utero commit to warrant the death penalty?
Strangely enough, you do not appear to be informed on in a number of matters.

For one, some of those on death row are innocent. DNA and other evidence exonerates someone every so often. You ought to read up on it. Quite the eye opener.

As to a fetus being a "child in utero" -- this is also misinformation. IRS does not count pregnancy as a dependent deduction. Father's do not pay child support for an embryo. ...

As to the U.S. being against killing innocent children, when did this happen?

Innocent children are murdered on a regular basis in this country, and we are fine with that. Oh, we wring our hands and call out for justice, but we don't outlaw the guns that murder them.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 06:54 AM
 
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The arguement for abortion is essentially "hippity hoppety, fetuses are property"

The entire arguement is about if certain human life are people or if they are property..... the EXACT dispute when it came to slavery.
Exactly correct, and the Democrats/left are on the side of some humans are others' property, as usual.
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