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Old 07-19-2022, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
No. If abortions meant killing children, then women would be prosecuted and sent to jail for murder. No state in the country does that.
A number of anti-abortion groups are unhappy with that and will be lobbying their state legislators for prison time. They also think it should be a crime to donate to women's rights groups that defend pro-abortion rights.

 
Old 07-19-2022, 02:20 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So is the supreme court going to ban cancer surgery now, since cancer is suddenly human?
Cancer is not a unique human life. A fertilized egg is.

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More like the lunatic faux-religious right
It's a shame you know so little science. You can change that by attempting to learn. Maybe take some basic community college courses, Bio 101, etc.

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The wide consensus of the word parasite does not define it as being a different species.
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

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As for the second half of your question it is of great harm to a woman to force her to have a baby she doesn't want. It's hard on her body and changes the course of her life for ever.
If a woman feels that way about it, she can use birth control. Again, the reason there are so many convenience abortions (more than 900,000/year) is because 95% of unintended pregnancies are due to women VOLUNTARILY participating in unprotected sex, by their own admission. Exactly what did they think the outcome of that was going to be? Hmmmm???
 
Old 07-19-2022, 02:24 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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By lots of Republicans wanting all abortion banned, I was referring to a poll of Oklahoman Republicans that found 48% of them do. And quite recently Republicans in Idaho at their convention voted for the same thing by a much more startling margin than that.
That's at the state level which is at it should be since the regulation of abortion is each state legislature's purview per both the US Constitution and the Dobbs decision.

You said a lot wanted abortion banned at the national level. I asked for proof of that. Where is it?
 
Old 07-19-2022, 02:29 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You don't know whether any particular woman did what you claim, and in any case, it is none of your business if she decides to not carry a pregnancy to term.
We know that 95% of unintended pregnancies are due to women VOLUNTARILY participating in unprotected sex, by their own admission.

Each state government now has the authority to decide how to handle women who kill their children and those who help them do so.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 02:33 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I doubt many women appreciate the right seeking revenge upon the left by literally wanting all abortion banned and putting women in prison convicted of abortion as well as wanting to ban birth control. In Oklahoma, it is rumored that Republicans for next legislative session want to ban birth control except allowing it to remain legal for married women.

The majority of Americans would be willing to meet in the middle by allowing legal abortion on demand up to the 12th month.
It depends on the REASON for the abortion. As I've posted several times, the ABC/WaPo poll found that Americans are about evenly split on whether or not convenience abortions (98.3% of all abortions) should be legal, regardless of the age of gestation.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 03:43 PM
 
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You keep saying that, but it is utterly irrelevant why a woman gets pregnant. It's no one's business but hers. It's OK if you want to think poorly of such women, but is not your place, or mine, to tell them they must carry a pregnancy to term. It's none of our business, and never will be.
It is each state government's place to tell them they cannot kill their children. Abortion regulation is each state legislature's purview.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 09:11 PM
 
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When you had consensual sex, you gave permission to share your body in two ways.
 
Old 07-20-2022, 07:43 AM
 
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When you had consensual sex, you gave permission to share your body in two ways.
Exactly correct. Just as everyone knows that driving or riding in a motor vehicle carries an inherent risk that you will suffer extreme bodily injury or death if a collision occurs and one accepts that risk voluntarily, women accept the possibility that a pregnancy will result from consensual sex.

Women and their partners can proactively take steps to prevent pregnancy by using birth control. 95% of unintended pregnancies are due to women voluntarily participating in unprotected sex, by their own admission.

We can easily see where the problem is... WAY TOO MANY women and their partners who don't want a pregnancy aren't using birth control. And then they want to "fix" the problem by killing their children, exactly the same behavior exhibited by mass shooters. They also choose to "fix their problems" by killing others. It's the hallmark of a sociopath.
 
Old 07-20-2022, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Roe v Wade controversy continues to burn.
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