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Old 07-19-2022, 05:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by berdee View Post
It wasn't.
Exactly. It isn't the same thing at all because the vast majority of the time (98.3%), abortion terminates a healthy pregnancy. There's no reason to make a difficult life or death decision about a mortally injured individual. It's just killing for the sake of convenience.

 
Old 07-19-2022, 06:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
That's exactly what convenience abortion (98.3% of all abortions) is: the killing of another individual just because one wishes to do so. The developing baby has:

1) Different DNA than the mother
2) Frequently a different blood type than the mother
3) About half the time, is a different sex than the mother

It is a unique individual, not just an extension or part of the mother's body.
You get 50% of your DNA from your Mother, and 50% of your DNA from your Father.

Your blood type with be either from your Mother or your Father.

The Father determines the sex of the Child. Women only have XX chromosomes. Men have XY chromosomes. If the child gets it's father's X, it will be female. If it get his Y, it will be male.

You weren't taught any of this in HS Biology? You seem to think that MALES play no role whatsoever in a child's DNA.

Maybe you should go on the Genealogy site. You might learn a thing or two about DNA.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 06:13 AM
 
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Plan B pills do exist. Among the 12 other forms of birth control.

The left claims to be the party of science but doesn't seem to be aware of all the scientific ways to prevent pregnancy.
Plan B prevents a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. Some idiots call that abortion and want to ban it.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 06:17 AM
 
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Then father's should consider their partners more carefully, or carry the fetus in their own body.
Why can't the mothers consider their partners more carefully? Especially since they're the ones who get pregnant. I know the left absolutely hates science, but this is just scientific fact.

Furthermore, why can't women take responsibility for their own reproductive health? 95% of unintended pregnancies are due to women voluntarily participating in unprotected sex (neither partner using birth control), by their own admission. WHY??? Are they just too stupid? Incompetent? ...Has it just been way too easy to use abortion as a birth control method? What in the hell is going on that 900,000 developing babies are killed each year just because women can't be bothered to get and use freely available birth control or insist that their male partner use a condom?
 
Old 07-19-2022, 06:23 AM
 
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Do you not understand that abortion has been around since ancient times. Making laws against it won't stop it.
Killing others has been around since humans have been in existence for 2 million years, as well. Laws against murder don't prevent murder, but they do provide a powerful disincentive to kill by implementing a severe penalty for doing so. It's all about whether our society values human life or not. If we do, there are laws against killing others. That includes abortion as abortion kills.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 06:31 AM
 
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And for those who are raped? Maybe we should start insisting girls use BC from the date of their first menstrual period, in those states where rape is not an exception, yanno just in case.
Rape accounts for only 0.3% of abortions and nearly all states include rape as an exception to their restrictions on abortion. The vast majority of abortions, 98.3%, are performed solely for the sake of convenience. You know... the "I don't want a baby because [insert random selfish reason]" abortions sought by women who didn't bother to get and use birth control or insist their partner use a condom.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 06:45 AM
 
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Bingo…and that’s not even mentioning STD’s, but they don’t even think of that. They’re more interested in blaming meanie men…and there’s many forms of BC for both men and women, but it’s funny how they go to wanting men snipped.
They will do whatever they can to make sure women stay in the "just too stupid and inept to be expected to be responsible for managing their own reproductive health" category in which they're held, in their opinion. The pro-death cult is an extremely misogynistic group and are highly condescending to women. Always.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 06:57 AM
 
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They will do whatever they can to make sure women stay in the "just too stupid and inept to be expected to be responsible for managing their own reproductive health" category in which they're held, in their opinion. The pro-death cult is an extremely misogynistic group and are highly condescending to women. Always.
Seriously? Look in your own mirror, Informed Consent.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 07:09 AM
 
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Killing others has been around since humans have been in existence for 2 million years, as well. Laws against murder don't prevent murder, but they do provide a powerful disincentive to kill by implementing a severe penalty for doing so. It's all about whether our society values human life or not. If we do, there are laws against killing others. That includes abortion as abortion kills.
A majority of people in this country don't agree that a fetus that is one month, two months, three months old is the same thing as a living human being. It is a potential human being. Anti-abortion people use extravagant rhetoric when they describe an abortion during this first trimester as "killing a human". Claiming that is so does not make it so.

Attempts to regulate abortion at these early stages will ultimately fail simply because this attitude is out of step with science and with what the clear majority of this country believes.
 
Old 07-19-2022, 07:14 AM
 
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There fixed it for you.

You can go on all day long about a fertilized egg is the same thing as a child.

The problem is two-fold. It cannot survive on its own outside the mother until it is approximately six months old. Second, the majority of Americans simply don't agree that a fertilized egg or young fetus is a child our ultra-conservative supreme court notwithstanding.

Let me tell you what is going to happen. Those of us who oppose these restrictions will undermine anti-abortion laws every chance we get. We will make holes in the laws big enough to drive a train through. Anti-abortion laws will eventually fall of their own weight.
Sorry, but if it's illegal to kill a developing baby, and it is even in blue states, that should apply to EVERYONE.

Why are you SO insistent on promoting killing others? Abortion kills 930,000/year and you're good with that? Since when did so many people lose their humanity?
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