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Old 10-10-2022, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Todays update:


https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-63193124

The armchair generals declare victory, and then the above happens. This is why it's best to "wait and see." There is no indication Russia is going to "give up" for a country on its own border. And China is watching, ready to step in as well. Both countries hate the west more than they love peace.
Oh look. The Russians blew up a playground and a pedestrian bridge in Kyiv. You are right this is going to be the turning point in the war. It's over for the Ukraine

The Ukrainians were expecting this retaliation, after their attack on the bridge. It's actually a surprisingly weak response.


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Old 10-10-2022, 06:11 AM
 
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Save face with hardliners.
Are these hardliners idiots?

Do they not realize this will only support Ukrainian requests for more long-range missiles?
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Old 10-10-2022, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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reaper drones and more HIMARS is the answer..from a self appointed 'armchair general'..lmao..
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Old 10-10-2022, 06:34 AM
 
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Got to wonder what Putin hopes to accomplish by bombing all these cities.

Does he imagine this will cause the Ukrainians to throw their hands up in despair and surrender?
And I am wondering what NATO is still waiting for.

If they don't want to do the job themselves, just give Ukrainians weapons that can easily reach Moscow.
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Old 10-10-2022, 06:34 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Uh oh, Putin is mad now. Not sure his rocket strategy is going to work much better than carpet bombing did in WW2.
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Old 10-10-2022, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Uh oh, Putin is mad now. Not sure his rocket strategy is going to work much better than carpet bombing did in WW2.
He is sick and demented but so is our President to continue to force this war on the Ukrainian people so that the Biden crime family can continue to launder billions of dollars through Ukraine.
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Old 10-10-2022, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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He is sick and demented but so is our President to continue to force this war on the Ukrainian people so that the Biden crime family can continue to launder billions of dollars through Ukraine.

Oh, so letting the Russian military waltz into Ukraine, take it over, to commit further war crimes, torture, shoot people and terrorize them is better?
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Old 10-10-2022, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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He is sick and demented but so is our President to continue to force this war on the Ukrainian people so that the Biden crime family can continue to launder billions of dollars through Ukraine.
so you would rather have the Ukrainian people live under the dictatorial rule of Putin?..I say let's help them take this sob out...anyway possible..keep sending them weapons..
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Old 10-10-2022, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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so you would rather have the Ukrainian people live under the dictatorial rule of Putin?..I say let's help them take this sob out...anyway possible..keep sending them weapons..

Be careful what you wish for. You have no idea if the successor is a hard liner. Still think it was a good idea to poke the bear? Good thing his military and hardware is out of date. Can you imagine?
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Old 10-10-2022, 08:55 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Calling the latest missile strikes "precision" is a stretch. True, they hit Kyiv and other cities, and I am sure they hit some important places. But is a mall full of people strategically important?!


Putin is angrily giving orders and there are still those foolish enough to follow them, although I doubt the missile technicians at the lowest level have the slightest idea of what the actual targets are; they just dial in the coordinates they are given.
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