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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.72%
No 256 50.59%
Unsure 49 9.68%
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Old 10-29-2022, 03:31 PM
 
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All the propaganda here is wonderful, but the front continues to move east. *shrug*
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Old 10-29-2022, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Deny's update today 10/29...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_CY7RyJNDo
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Old 10-29-2022, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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I usually listen to this guy too..he's more technical in his briefings, but kind of hard to listen to..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8KL_WibSdw
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Old 10-29-2022, 04:45 PM
 
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I don’t know where you get this ridiculously erroneous information, but you have thoroughly demonstrated your unwavering desire to remain ignorant of the real facts. It’s inexplicable as to why anyone would want to be this way, but what other conclusion could one come to?

Europe is facing an energy crisis already, and winter has barely arrived there. Germany is in trouble, as is much of EUROPE, in spite of these childish fairytales you’re promoting.
Do you get your propaganda from the guy this youTuber is talking about?





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHohDaS4yb0&t=20s
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Old 10-29-2022, 06:44 PM
 
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I don’t know where you get this ridiculously erroneous information, but you have thoroughly demonstrated your unwavering desire to remain ignorant of the real facts. It’s inexplicable as to why anyone would want to be this way, but what other conclusion could one come to?

Europe is facing an energy crisis already, and winter has barely arrived there. Germany is in trouble, as is much of EUROPE, in spite of these childish fairytales you’re promoting.
Facts are facts but they have nothing to do with what has to be promoted. All you have to remember is that Ukraine is good and Russia is bad. Every time and all the time. It's that simple. Don't think, others have done your thinking for you. People who think too much become nutty conspiracy theorists and tin foil hat wearers.

Remember, those "childish fairytales" that you speak of are gospel truth. Ukraine will win this war. Period. No discussion.

Any source that says anything good about Russia and how that country is winning the war is always lying propaganda, and any source that says good things about Ukraine is spreading pure, unadulterated truth. It's always that way and always will be.

Oh, and your post about Victoria Nuland and Marco Rubio proving your stated argument about biolabs was uncomfortable to read and watch. Of course those biolabs are propaganda, but when the "good guys" like Nuland and Rubio admit to it, it creates unpleasant dissonance in that the propaganda was disseminated by these good guys who always speak the truth. We can't have that because it hurts the required narrative. Thus, please refrain from posting this type of information in the future. Thank you.

Remember: Ukraine good. Russia bad. That is all that you need to know.
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Old 10-29-2022, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Todays ISW update

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ent-october-29

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Likely Ukrainian forces conducted an attack against a Grigorovich-class frigate of the Black Sea Fleet (BSF) near Sevastopol with unmanned surface vehicles on October 29. Social media footage documented an unknown number of unmanned surface vehicles striking at least one Grigorovich-class frigate in Sevastopol on October 29. Footage also showed smoke near the port in Sevastopol and what appeared to be Russian air defense in Sevastopol engaging air targets. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Ukrainian forces used seven autonomous maritime drones and nine unmanned aerial vehicles to conduct a “terrorist attack†against the BSF and civilian targets in Sevastopol. Attacks on military vessels in wartime are legitimate acts of war and not terrorist attacks. The Russian MoD claimed that Russian forces destroyed all air targets, destroyed four maritime drones on the outer roadstead, and three maritime drones on the inner roadstead. A similar unidentified unmanned surface vehicle first appeared on the coast of Crimea on September 21.
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Old 10-29-2022, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Facts are facts but they have nothing to do with what has to be promoted.
Well it is good to hear from the expert who spent the summer telling us the Russian offensive was about to rapidly accelerate, Ukraine troops would fold, there will never be a Ukrainian offensive, Ukraine can't turn the tide, etc.

Pure comedy...
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Russia's offensive in Donbas is winding down and other offensives will be starting soon given that the Ukrainian forces have been seriously weakened.
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The Ukrainians are too weak to start any counteroffensives, and will simply be pushed back to further remote areas of their country. Now that the Russians have breached the Donbas fortified areas, their advance will accelerate. Certainly, Odessa will be targeted and taken. There is simply not enough Ukrainian troops left to impede this.
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The Ukrainian offensive never took place and won't take place. The Ukrainians don't have the manpower to do it
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And once the Donbas fortifications are completely breached, the Russian rate of advance will rapidly accelerate. Zelensky better get his Miami mansion in order. He's going to need it soon.
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The Russian forces have drastically increased their offensive in the last few days and this is the result. Ukrainian troops are going to be severely challenged to not fall apart.
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Actually, getting ready to escalate their attacks against Ukrainian forces since Ukraine threatened to attack the Crimea and/or the Crimean bridge to mainland Russia. Putin sent General Shoigu to Ukraine about a day ago to tell his generals to intensify and speed up the special operation.
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Ukraine will not have the ability to turn the tide even with Western weapons. The only thing that will turn the tide in Ukraine's favor is NATO boots on the ground or the use of nuclear weapons.
Oh my gosh it is General Shoigu!
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Old 10-29-2022, 09:14 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Pretty funny.
The Russian ships were attacked and suffered some damage.
Unable to blame the naval attacks on Ukraine because Ukraine has no navy, the Russians chose to blame it on Great Britain.
"That's it!", declares Putin. "The gloves are REALLY coming off this time!"


Over 60,000 Russians have been killed. 500,000 have left the country. Another 2 million wish they could find a way to leave.

The Ukraine Air Force is now equipped with US made HARM missiles, which seek out and destroy Russian radar systems.


Ukraine continues to take back ground from Russia.
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Old 10-30-2022, 02:11 AM
 
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Well it is good to hear from the expert who spent the summer telling us the Russian offensive was about to rapidly accelerate, Ukraine troops would fold, there will never be a Ukrainian offensive, Ukraine can't turn the tide, etc.

Pure comedy...








Oh my gosh it is General Shoigu!
I really admire those of you who read and respond to such constant nonsense. My limit is three ridiculous posts and I'm done.
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Old 10-30-2022, 02:49 AM
 
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Reading this morning about Ukrainian RR workers. They not only risk their lives to transport evacuees, wounded soldiers, etc. to safety, but are tasked with safely transporting various dignitaries, Prime Ministers, ambassadors, bands, and such, welcoming them to Ukraine, ensuring they have a positive experience. Reportedly, syrnyky, cheese pancakes are a favorite part of this Iron Diplomacy.

World Central Kitchen chefs are preparing millions of meals for refugees as well as those remaining in Ukraine.

So much of this war is being fought by ordinary people doing extraordinary jobs.
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